3 kittens born - help

Thanks Pam, but just to clarify one thing, last week I was starting to
doubt that the cat really was pregnant, because having always
seen her in the same position, settled upright, wherever she was, I
could see no evidence of pregnancy, and had only taken the owner's
word for it. The cat had been with me for a week, so I thought if
she didn't have kittens before Monday, half a week later, I would
assume she wasn't really pregnant, and take her to the vet for spaying.

But then I used my video camera to see her walking around, and
decided she probably was pregnant after all, so I dropped plans
to take her to the vet on Monday; and then she had the kittens on
Sunday anyway.

About the late-term abortion, someone said that after the spay/abortion
the cat's lack of hormones would make her not feel that an upheaval in
her mothering instincts and preparations had taken place. I don't
know anything about this, but in another context someone said that
she still would have hormones in her body for some time after
spaying, and I know that it's true that male cats still have hormones
for a while after neutering. So I'm not convinced that spay/abortion
during the last week before delivery would not have been a horribly
violent and extremely distressing experience for the mother, aside
from the killing of near full-term kittens.

As I've said before, I fully believe in spaying/neutering, and all of
my cats
have been spayed/neutered before any breeding, except that the adult
stray (abandoned) male that I adopted probably had bred before his
tomcatting around was stopped.

-cr

"-L." wrote in message
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Calvin Rice wrote:
Latest recount: six.

Maybe it's time for the Supreme Court to step in
and stop the recounts.

I wonder if the vet really would have aborted this litter if
the mother had been brought in last week. It would have
been a massacre.

-cr

I hate to brweak your "pro life" bubble but aborting kittens is far
from a massacre. 9 times out of 10, even if they are a few days to
term, they don't even take a breath. In fact, in most pregnant-spay
cases, they are usually underdeveloped and are essentially not active
when the uterus is removed.

As much as you want to think you are doing a good thing by bringing
more homeless cats into the world, you aren't. You're now responsible
for at least 6 cat deaths. Congratulations.

-L.
(disgusted)


OK I can tell everyone straight I have nothing against abortion so I don't
ahve any ideal that is being trounced on, but I can't see how it cannot be
physically traumatic to spay a cat at as late a stage as this cat was at.
YOu mean to say it is not a problem?

"Kitkat" wrote in message
. ..
-L. wrote:


As much as you want to think you are doing a good thing by bringing
more homeless cats into the world, you aren't. You're now responsible
for at least 6 cat deaths. Congratulations.

-L.
(disgusted)

I don't think Calvin thinks he is "doing a good thing by bringing more
homeless cats into the world"...he simply did what he felt was right.
Just because you don't agree with it doesnt make it wrong. I am most
certainly not in agreement with him abortion, etc. But cmon. He has
posted here throughout this entire ordeal and given a lot of thought to
what people have said and has basically decided to keep all of the
kittens himself. Also, he was still considering bringing the mama kat in
for the spay on Monday, but the kittens were born over the weekend. All
I guess I am saying is that this guy is not evil incarnate. He's just a
guy with beliefs (that don't match yours) and doing what he thinks is
right by those beliefs.

Pam

I agree totally Pam.

Yep, I've been there and made the same choice as Calvin. It's not an
easy choice, and is not black and white.

Rhonda

Kitkat wrote:


I don't think Calvin thinks he is "doing a good thing by bringing more
homeless cats into the world"...he simply did what he felt was right.
Just because you don't agree with it doesnt make it wrong. I am most
certainly not in agreement with him abortion, etc. But cmon. He has
posted here throughout this entire ordeal and given a lot of thought to
what people have said and has basically decided to keep all of the
kittens himself. Also, he was still considering bringing the mama kat in
for the spay on Monday, but the kittens were born over the weekend. All
I guess I am saying is that this guy is not evil incarnate. He's just a
guy with beliefs (that don't match yours) and doing what he thinks is
right by those beliefs.

Pam

Rhonda wrote:
Yep, I've been there and made the same choice as Calvin. It's not an
easy choice, and is not black and white.

It really isnt. NOthing is black and white. And that is one of the
hardest things in life to learn and accept, IMO. Just because I think
something is TERRIBLY wrong...doesn't really make it so.

Pam