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shortfuse wrote:
I know just to be on the safe side, I have my cats innoculated for all, since I have a habit of feeding some homeless cats on/off and dont want to take chances. http://www.aafponline.org/resources/...es/vaccine.pdf -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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While looking for the link for "leash-laws" for pets, including cats,
in this area I found this: http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/loonylaws.htm My favorite: "Cats in International Falls, Minnesota, are not allowed to chase dogs up telephone poles." -- Cheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields |
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My vet agrees that the time can be extended significantly for indoor-only
cats, especially those that have previously had a series of rabies shots. However, he still stresses distemper shots because it is airborne. Do you agree? In 2000 the AAFP (American Association of Feline Practitioners) recommended that "following the initial series of vaccinations and revaccination 1 year later, cats should be vaccinated no more frequently than once every 3 years". 2 years ago I spoke with the AAFP representative at a meeting and he didn't recommend vaccinating strict indoor only cats (don't even go out on the porch) due to VASTS. I haven't had any of my cats vaccinated since then. But, that's just what I decided to do, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't follow your or your own vet's instincts either. |
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mlabofski yahoo.co.uk wrote: Path: newssvr17.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm02.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.pro digy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!pr odigy.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!g44g2 000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: mlabofski yahoo.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav,rec.pets. cats.anecdotes Subject: Indoor cats Date: 17 Aug 2005 11:07:05 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 33 Message-ID: 1124302025.723942.167880 g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.49.185.194 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1124302031 5829 127.0.0.1 (17 Aug 2005 18:07:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:07:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com Injection-Info: g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=62.49.185.194; posting-account=ucIWawwAAADzB3ECSWNsb63RFr3vAe1H Xref: newsmst01b.news.prodigy.com alt.pets.cats:33933 rec.pets.cats.health+behav:388442 rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:334520 First let me say I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just interested in the (apparent) culture difference between the US & the UK as regards our feline friends. With regard to letting cats out: All the cats I know go outside, they (usually) learn their way back home from their local neighbourhood, they don't go too far but suss out gardens, wildlife, other cats and people, and hopefully realise that traffic isn't for playing with. There's not too many birds in London and no-one seems to care about the pigeon population anyway. Some get lost, some get hit by traffic (mine for example isn't allowed out the front to the road, only the back garden where he doesn't seem to want to climb the fence to escape from but if he did I'd let him). It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). It seems that in the US people are much more likely to force cats to stay indoors, or take them out on a leash (something I've NEVER heard of over here and to be honest I think people would laugh over here if they saw a cat on a lead, but fair play for succeeding in training a cat to do it), or build these enclosure thingies for them, to protect the wildlife, also I've never seen one over here. It's interesting, do you think it's a cultural thing? How long have people in the US been doing these things? Perhaps it's not the general population, just people in cat groups As I say, I wasn't saying that either way is right, it's just interesting how people do things differently. Marcia Lord Otis's slave and minder |
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wrote in message oups.com... It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). Its a cultural thing. Most (60%) cat owners in the U.S. feel that its cruel to expose cats to the stress and dangers outside of a safe home. An outdoor cat lives a more stressful life than an indoor cat. If you know a little about cats, and if you're sensitive to your cat's needs, you can provide your cat with a rich, happy, healthy, and safe life indoors. Phil |
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message news:fhQMe.2585$Ix4.377@okepread03... My vet agrees that the time can be extended significantly for indoor-only cats, especially those that have previously had a series of rabies shots. However, he still stresses distemper shots because it is airborne. Do you agree? Parvovirus (distemper) is not an airborne virus but it can remain viable and infectious in the environment for 1 year. The parvovirus vaccine is extremely effective and confers *solid* protection for at least 8 years if not for life. Parvovirus (panleukopenia) is primarily a disease of kittens- adults are very rarely infected, and when they are, its almost invariably subclinical. Phil |
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"Dr.Carla,DVM" wrote in message news:1PPMe.35682$084.17489@attbi_s22 Oh and before I get off my soap box, I forgot, indoor only cats don't need vaccinations unless they spend time at kennels, etc. Vaccinations in cats have been shown to cause VASTS (vaccine associated soft tissue sarcomas) or tumors. Its not clear yet which part of the vaccines are causing this terrible outcome. There is a new safer rabies shot for cats, ask your vet about it next time you go for vaccinations. One of the great advantages of living in the UK is we don't have rabies. We also don't have coyotes and other predators that seem to roam all over the USA (I've never seen a coyote in San Francisco, but I'm willing to accept they may be there..!) so our cats have a far less stressful outdoor life. For my part, if I were unable to allow a cat outdoors through risk of predators or any other reason, I simply wouldn't have a cat. I would not move into accommodation where a cat was not permitted. If I *were* forced to live somewhere where indoor only cats were permitted, I would make sure to choose one from a rescue shelter that was *known* to be content with such a life. I would also give priority under those circumstances to a cat with FIV, which I would be reluctant to allow out anyway in case an encounter with another cat passed on the infection. I have never heard of this VASTS you mention, could you give a site with more information, please..? Ivor |
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"223rem" wrote in message news:t4PMe.35637$084.25831@attbi_s22 America is obsessed with safety. For example, everything has to be 'safe for the children'. Political correctness is another national obsession. Of course, the fact is that we are a violent, inhumane society. No, America is obsessed with ligitation, or fear of litigation. Every time someone so much as sneezes out of place, they're slapped with a lawsuit. Well that's how it appears to us over here in the UK anyway. It's like speed limits, they say you have to keep your speed below 30mph in case you hit a child. What the hell is the child doing in the middle of the road in the first place..? Don't their parents educate them..? Ivor |
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Wow, sounds like a nightmare, and I thought East London was dangerous
LOL! As I say, my cat only goes in my back garden, but my friends 5 cats are out most of the time, have had all their shots, never run into stray dogs (don't think they let dogs out on their own round here), and would go crazy if they were in all the time. They don't go far away, but nobody seems to mind them visiting their gardens, no-one ever complains. They have flea collars, and never get mites or ticks here. There is no way they could keep them inside, and wouldn't want to restrict them like that, and they come to no harm. |
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I do agree about the cars, cats (and dogs) do get killed by them, and
then there's always stories (urban myths possibly?) about people stealing cats for labs or fur. I never understood about all the US wildlife before, and now that side of it definately makes sense, I guess if they're happy being indoors that's fine. I was surprised that when I gave Otis his freedom (and a rather old age) he never went for it and is happy to sunbathe in the back garden without attempting to climb the fences. |
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