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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:59:23 GMT, (Ginger-lyn
Summer) wrote: snip We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Certainly we can send purrs that she'll read and agree with the anti-declaw. And don't beat yourself up about not learning about her stance earlier. As I remember, it was an emergency type situation where you pretty much needed to spirit Morganna away before the neighbors would think about recaliming her. -- Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:59:23 GMT, (Ginger-lyn
Summer) wrote: snip We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Certainly we can send purrs that she'll read and agree with the anti-declaw. And don't beat yourself up about not learning about her stance earlier. As I remember, it was an emergency type situation where you pretty much needed to spirit Morganna away before the neighbors would think about recaliming her. -- Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html |
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Ginger-lyn Summer wrote:
I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first Hey Ginger-Lyn - that was a hellish situation for both you and Morganna/Tallula. I know you did the best thing you could under the circumstances, and you most certainly saved that kitten's life. And no matter how terrible declawing is, it's not as bad as being killed, or slowly starving to death, or living a neglected, stressed-out life, as she most likely would have in that horrible household. I'm sure you know the phrase "beggars can't be choosers". Sometimes, in desperate situations, you just have to take what's offered, even when it's far from ideal, because it's better than the alternative. So don't beat yourself about it. You've learned something important and you'll be more prepared if you should ever need to place a cat in a new home. Purrs that you can convince Tallula's adopter not to declaw her!! Joyce |
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Ginger-lyn Summer wrote:
I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first Hey Ginger-Lyn - that was a hellish situation for both you and Morganna/Tallula. I know you did the best thing you could under the circumstances, and you most certainly saved that kitten's life. And no matter how terrible declawing is, it's not as bad as being killed, or slowly starving to death, or living a neglected, stressed-out life, as she most likely would have in that horrible household. I'm sure you know the phrase "beggars can't be choosers". Sometimes, in desperate situations, you just have to take what's offered, even when it's far from ideal, because it's better than the alternative. So don't beat yourself about it. You've learned something important and you'll be more prepared if you should ever need to place a cat in a new home. Purrs that you can convince Tallula's adopter not to declaw her!! Joyce |
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Ginger-lyn Summer wrote:
I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first Hey Ginger-Lyn - that was a hellish situation for both you and Morganna/Tallula. I know you did the best thing you could under the circumstances, and you most certainly saved that kitten's life. And no matter how terrible declawing is, it's not as bad as being killed, or slowly starving to death, or living a neglected, stressed-out life, as she most likely would have in that horrible household. I'm sure you know the phrase "beggars can't be choosers". Sometimes, in desperate situations, you just have to take what's offered, even when it's far from ideal, because it's better than the alternative. So don't beat yourself about it. You've learned something important and you'll be more prepared if you should ever need to place a cat in a new home. Purrs that you can convince Tallula's adopter not to declaw her!! Joyce |
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"Ginger-lyn Summer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:58:01 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Ginger-lyn, I know this has been a very difficult, time-consuming, and stressful situation for you. However, in the future, please (1) get the adoptive "parent" to sign the adoption papers, including the declaw agreement, *before* you release a cat into their care; and (2) have a serious discussion about declaw and make sure that there will be no "afterthoughts" about it -- again, *before* adoption (or fostering, if that could lead to adoption). MaryL I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first, whether it's to a fosterer or a prospective adoptive parent. It just didn't dawn on me at all that a fosterer would ever be the type to promote declawing -- I have never heard/read of such a thing. Every fosterer I have ever known or read about is anti-declaw. Now I know better. We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Ginger-lyn Exhausted Could you demand the return of the cat if the woman will not sign adoption papers that include a no-declaw provision (or even if you suspect that she m ay not abide by the agreement)? If a temporary person took matters into her own hands and released the cat without your permission, then the transfer may have been illegal. A foster parent does not have legal custody of the cat (just as a foster parent for a human baby cannot legally make a decision concerning an adoptive parent). That cat was not hers to "give away." MaryL |
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"Ginger-lyn Summer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:58:01 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Ginger-lyn, I know this has been a very difficult, time-consuming, and stressful situation for you. However, in the future, please (1) get the adoptive "parent" to sign the adoption papers, including the declaw agreement, *before* you release a cat into their care; and (2) have a serious discussion about declaw and make sure that there will be no "afterthoughts" about it -- again, *before* adoption (or fostering, if that could lead to adoption). MaryL I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first, whether it's to a fosterer or a prospective adoptive parent. It just didn't dawn on me at all that a fosterer would ever be the type to promote declawing -- I have never heard/read of such a thing. Every fosterer I have ever known or read about is anti-declaw. Now I know better. We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Ginger-lyn Exhausted Could you demand the return of the cat if the woman will not sign adoption papers that include a no-declaw provision (or even if you suspect that she m ay not abide by the agreement)? If a temporary person took matters into her own hands and released the cat without your permission, then the transfer may have been illegal. A foster parent does not have legal custody of the cat (just as a foster parent for a human baby cannot legally make a decision concerning an adoptive parent). That cat was not hers to "give away." MaryL |
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"Ginger-lyn Summer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:58:01 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Ginger-lyn, I know this has been a very difficult, time-consuming, and stressful situation for you. However, in the future, please (1) get the adoptive "parent" to sign the adoption papers, including the declaw agreement, *before* you release a cat into their care; and (2) have a serious discussion about declaw and make sure that there will be no "afterthoughts" about it -- again, *before* adoption (or fostering, if that could lead to adoption). MaryL I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first, whether it's to a fosterer or a prospective adoptive parent. It just didn't dawn on me at all that a fosterer would ever be the type to promote declawing -- I have never heard/read of such a thing. Every fosterer I have ever known or read about is anti-declaw. Now I know better. We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Ginger-lyn Exhausted Could you demand the return of the cat if the woman will not sign adoption papers that include a no-declaw provision (or even if you suspect that she m ay not abide by the agreement)? If a temporary person took matters into her own hands and released the cat without your permission, then the transfer may have been illegal. A foster parent does not have legal custody of the cat (just as a foster parent for a human baby cannot legally make a decision concerning an adoptive parent). That cat was not hers to "give away." MaryL |
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Ginger, if you can bear it, print the pictures on this page, or ask the lady
to go to this link, to show her exactly what a declawing procedure involves. I don't know anyone who could look at these and still have a cat declawed - and if anyone could, I would *not* want them to have a cat. WARNING *VERY* GRAPHIC PICTURES OF AN ACTUAL DECLAWING - DO *NOT* VIEW THIS PAGE IS YOU HAVE A SENSITIVE NATURE (I COULDN'T LOOK AT IT MYSELF)... http://declaw.lisaviolet.com/declawpics.html Hugs, CatNipped "Ginger-lyn Summer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:58:01 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Ginger-lyn, I know this has been a very difficult, time-consuming, and stressful situation for you. However, in the future, please (1) get the adoptive "parent" to sign the adoption papers, including the declaw agreement, *before* you release a cat into their care; and (2) have a serious discussion about declaw and make sure that there will be no "afterthoughts" about it -- again, *before* adoption (or fostering, if that could lead to adoption). MaryL I know, Mary, and I had the phone screen interview, the adoption agreement, and everything ready to go. This is the first time I have tried to place a cat privately, and it was a desperate situation at the time to get her out of here and into somewhere else temporarily. Unfortunately, the temporary person took matters into her own hands before I could stop her :-( If I could have kept the kitten here, it would have gone much more the way I had planned, but that wasn't an option. Believe me, in the future, if anything like this ever arises again, I won't let one go without making it clear that these steps must be taken first, whether it's to a fosterer or a prospective adoptive parent. It just didn't dawn on me at all that a fosterer would ever be the type to promote declawing -- I have never heard/read of such a thing. Every fosterer I have ever known or read about is anti-declaw. Now I know better. We'll see what she does when I send her the material. Any purrs would be appreciated that she signs and agrees with the anti-declaw statement. Ginger-lyn Exhausted |
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