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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Apr 2, 4:28*pm, John Gordon wrote:
Yes, we have exactly three. *What is special about that number? With three cats, there is always an alliance between any given two against the third. In this particular case, the cat with the 'funny smell' became the victim-de-jour. For that reason, we will never have three cats, as the mix is simply not healthy. It is either two or 'many'. And 'many' is fraught with other dangers. So, two do for us. But when I mentioned our big male's wish to 'mother' any of our pets recently from the vet, that is absolutely true. And our dogs are similarly inclined. So when your cat was rejected, the three-cat syndrome immediately came to mind. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Apr 2, 4:28*pm, John Gordon wrote: Yes, we have exactly three. *What is special about that number? With three cats, there is always an alliance between any given two against the third. In this particular case, the cat with the 'funny smell' became the victim-de-jour. For that reason, we will never have three cats, as the mix is simply not healthy. It is either two or 'many'. And 'many' is fraught with other dangers. So, two do for us. But when I mentioned our big male's wish to 'mother' any of our pets recently from the vet, that is absolutely true. And our dogs are similarly inclined. So when your cat was rejected, the three-cat syndrome immediately came to mind. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA I have three. Two xboys and one xgirl. I took the girl (Marlo) off the street the previous winter when it was 8F outside. The boys were already resident. After a few days in the Cat Introduction Room (and a checkout and neuter at the vet) she joined them. If there is a 2:1 alliance I sure can't see it. Any given chase around the house involves any two of the three. Each seems to have an equal chance of being groomed by another. That, of course, often ends in play fighting. There is very rarely a fight serious enough to have someone audibly complain. The boys are both around 5 by now and Marlo is maybe 3. Nipsy is 16lbs, Espy is 10, and Marlo is 12 (and pretty chubby - she's a small cat). The personalities are very different. Nipsy is a "Scardy cat". Espy is a "Curiosity Killed the cat", and Marlo is somewhere between. There's a fair amount of room since it's a house and they can certainly get away from each other for a break, but mostly they hang out near each other. I've almost always had two cats and three is pushing my limit, but I can't say there have been any cat related issues that I can ascribe to having three. I haven't noticed much in the way of reaction when one returns from the vet but there is some sniffing. Still, I've read about it often enough here to know what to do if it happens. It's hard to believe they wouldn't recognize their own long-time housemate after a trip to the vet, but they are all so weird. |
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"dgk" wrote : I have three. Two xboys and one xgirl. I took the girl (Marlo) off the street the previous winter when it was 8F outside. The boys were already resident. After a few days in the Cat Introduction Room (and a checkout and neuter at the vet) she joined them. If there is a 2:1 alliance I sure can't see it. Peter is an idiot. Figure that into the equation. |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Apr 3, 11:37*am, "cybercat" wrote:
"dgk" wrote : I have three. Two xboys and one xgirl. I took the girl (Marlo) off the street the previous winter when it was 8F outside. The boys were already resident. After a few days in the Cat Introduction Room (and a checkout and neuter at the vet) she joined them. If there is a 2:1 alliance I sure can't see it. Peter is an idiot. Figure that into the equation. That is as it may be. But you, old lady, are genuinely dangerous. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 11:37 am, "cybercat" wrote: "dgk" wrote : I have three. Two xboys and one xgirl. I took the girl (Marlo) off the street the previous winter when it was 8F outside. The boys were already resident. After a few days in the Cat Introduction Room (and a checkout and neuter at the vet) she joined them. If there is a 2:1 alliance I sure can't see it. Peter is an idiot. Figure that into the equation. That is as it may be. But you, old lady, are genuinely dangerous. Okay, I admit it, I am old. I just turned 50. But "dangerous?" You're the asshole who doesn't take care of his cats. As I recall, you allow them to roam, among other things. Now let's talk about how I am "dangerous." Old, maybe. Idiot, not even. Idiots like you are far more likely to be dangererous. You're not yet in my kf on my laptop, but you will be. Asshole. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Apr 3, 6:08*pm, "cyberpurrs" wrote:
Okay, I admit it, I am old. I just turned 50. a) you have not "killefiled" me as you have promised. Credibility in question here. b) I have been owned by cats for longer than you have been alive. c) If you want me to detail your idiocies just in the last few months, just keep at it and I will. As to our cats going outdoors - yes, they do - and always have to the extent that they choose. And at the same time, they have long, healthy and extremely happy lives for all that. Until you have seen a cat hunting, chasing, playing in the outdoors, or even fishing - yes, our cats fish - then you cannot ever expect to understand what a cat is when it can express all of its nature. Get a life, please. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 6:08 pm, "cyberpurrs" wrote: Okay, I admit it, I am old. I just turned 50. a) you have not "killefiled" me as you have promised. Credibility in question here. b) I have been owned by cats for longer than you have been alive. c) If you want me to detail your idiocies just in the last few months, just keep at it and I will. I do. Let's have it. From an asshole who allows his cats to roam unsupervised and thinks there is some "deadly unluckiness" in having three cats. Also, it sounds to me like you are a seriously old ****er. Contrary to your idiotic opinion, decrepitness does not confer wisdom. You're just old and stupid, instead of younger and stupid as you were for the rest of your life. |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Apr 3, 6:08*pm, "cyberpurrs" wrote: Okay, I admit it, I am old. I just turned 50. a) you have not "killefiled" me as you have promised. Credibility in question here. b) I have been owned by cats for longer than you have been alive. c) If you want me to detail your idiocies just in the last few months, just keep at it and I will. As to our cats going outdoors - yes, they do - and always have to the extent that they choose. And at the same time, they have long, healthy and extremely happy lives for all that. Until you have seen a cat hunting, chasing, playing in the outdoors, or even fishing - yes, our cats fish - then you cannot ever expect to understand what a cat is when it can express all of its nature. Get a life, please. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA I'm curious about the fishing thing. Do they sit at the bank and try to grab fish when they come too close? There was a small fishing pond in my yard (like a bathtub) when I bought the house but I had to remove it since I figured it would just be a sushi bar for the feline members of the household. Not to mention the birds. Cats and water is always a funny situation. Some hate it and some are fascinated by it. Marlo gets almost ecstatic when I use the turkey baster to remove something that fell into their fountain. She swats at it and climbs all over trying to get to it. The other two ignore it completely. They're just all so weird. |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
On Apr 6, 9:00*am, dgk wrote:
I'm curious about the fishing thing. Do they sit at the bank and try to grab fish when they come too close? There was a small fishing pond in my yard (like a bathtub) when I bought the house but I had to remove it since I figured it would just be a sushi bar for the feline members of the household. Not to mention the birds. Our neighbor has a moderately large fishpond in their back yard with something between 40 and 60 large comets in it - averaging about a foot long. They give away something between 15 and 30 each year (yes, they are breeding - almost like guppies) to the local pond supply in trade for food and plants, but they are always managing a crowd. So, when our cats started fishing in their pond they raised no objections at all - even find it amusing. The big Maine Coon sits on a rock a few feet from the edge and dangles one paw in the water by a few inches - keep in mind his paws are about the size of a small saucer and webbed (typical of the breed). When a fish gets close enough, he attempts to gaff it and flip it onto the shore. The younger cat used the same technique but with both paws in the water - until he got a fish that outweighed him and was pulled in. He managed to get the fish to the edge of the pond, but he has not been back since - maybe he is waiting for warmer weather. Yes, they share their catch. Before we moved into this house we had a small pond in our back yard with much smaller fish in it. The big cat learned there and is teaching by example. Neither cat has expressed much interest at all in birds other than as amusing diversions. They like to watch the feeder but never make any attempt to catch anything from it. They pretty much prey on fish and 'vermin' - mice/moles/voles/rabbits/squirrels/chipmunks and so forth. On the whole indoor/outdoor thing - the nature of a cat is such that if it is confined to the indoors with very, very, vanishingly few exceptions, it will not be able to express its entire nature. At which point it is no longer a cat but an appendage to our egos. That is fair neither to us nor to the cat. Sure, there are some (over)breeds with only a few firing neurons that adapt fairly well to confinement but that is the exception, hardly the rule. So, this puts one on the proverbial horns of a dilemma - there are very real risks to allowing a cat access to the outside - that is undeniable. As with ourselves - every time we leave our abode, drive a vehicle, cross a street, fly in an airplane, whatever - there are very real and undeniable risks attached. But, watching a cat be a cat with all the expression and behavior attached to that behavior makes one have to think very, very hard before denying that absolute joy to the animal. Naturally, city cats are an entirely different problem. There is no legitimate possibility for free outdoor access. And that makes the burden on the owner doubly difficult. Ah, well. And as to Ms. Cyber-whatever - I will deal with her when the weather is sufficiently wretched that I have nothing better to do. But I will start with her advice to an individual what an altered male cat who suddenly started peeing all over - her advice was to confine it. NOT - even given all her ranting on taking cats to vets and such - to have it checked for a urinary or kidney or other medical problem, an obvious concern for a sudden change in behavior. As I wrote before - dangerous. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Hissing after bringing kitty home from vet
wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 4:28 pm, John Gordon wrote: Yes, we have exactly three. What is special about that number? With three cats, there is always an alliance between any given two against the third. Not only is that about the most asinine and bogus thing I've ever heard- its also very dangerous and incredibly irresponsible. Didn't you think about the impact bogus information like this can have on the lives of cats languishing in shelters who won't get adopted because you scared people away from adopting a third cat with your bogus bull****? Or don't you normally think that far head? I can single-handedly debunk your ludicrous drivel as an owner of three cats for decades, and as someome who placed *many*, *many* third cats in homes and *never* seen or heard of a situation like you concocted. A third cat is just as likely to get along or not get along with resident cats as a second, fourth, fifth or tenth cat. This is the second time (that I know of) that you've posted bogus information that could be harmful to cats. The first time was a bogus, outdated myth about neutering affecting urethral dimensions in male cats. Remember that nugget of crap? I shudder at the thought of how many people you scared out of neutering their cats. Do the cats of this world a favor and either think before you type or sit on your hands when you get the urge to type something stupid and potentially dangerous. |
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