free feeding VS fixed feeding

"Diane L. Schirf" wrote in
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"Phil P." wrote:

Fixed feeding reduces the risk of struvite crystal/urolith formation by
allowing more time to elapse between meals for the cat's natural urine
acidity to return and dissolve struvite that may have formed. Ad
libitum
(free feeding) keeps the urine alkaline most of the day which presents a
risk factor for struvite formation.

That's good info. Hodge is prone to crystals, and since his food has to
be regulated because he doesn't know when to quit he's prolly better
off. Now if I could just keep him from foraging . . .

You can reduce the risk of crystals further by feeding him all or mostly
canned food. Cats fed canned food have a higher water intake and turnover
and urine volume than cats fed dry food. They also urinate more frequently.

The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract, the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.

Between meal-feeding and canned food, you'll reduce the risk of crystals
significantly.

Phil.

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract, the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract, the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

*You're* the one who needs to study chemistry - may be you'll finally learn
that calcium oxalate uroliths *cannot* be dissolved in cats and stop posting
information that could lead to a cat's death.

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

*You're* the one who needs to study chemistry - may be you'll finally learn
that calcium oxalate uroliths *cannot* be dissolved in cats and stop posting
information that could lead to a cat's death.

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck. Degree of dilution of solutes do not
interfere with ease of elimination to any considerable extent as
viscosity varies very little in this setting. The fact that substances
are dissolved and not precipitated does. Elimination does not
interfere with aggregation either, it is the saturation of the
solution that determines if aggregation will occur or not. If the
saturation point is reached and something acts like a nucleus,
aggregation (or precipitation) will begin. But you are doing great.
Keep studying and eventually you will understand the things I write.

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck. Degree of dilution of solutes do not
interfere with ease of elimination to any considerable extent as
viscosity varies very little in this setting. The fact that substances
are dissolved and not precipitated does. Elimination does not
interfere with aggregation either, it is the saturation of the
solution that determines if aggregation will occur or not. If the
saturation point is reached and something acts like a nucleus,
aggregation (or precipitation) will begin. But you are doing great.
Keep studying and eventually you will understand the things I write.

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in
the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination
results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere
with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary
tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed
up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah.. like your deadly delusion about how adult cats can't become infected
with FeLV? Or your infamous delusion about dissolving calcium oxalate
uroliths in cats with water? Four out of the four vets who read your
nonsensical explanation thought you were a "nut case" (their words, not
mine) and also thought you were "very dangerous" because you can write your
nonsense with a "scientific flair" that makes it sound believable to the
average pet owner.

Now you're trying to dispute veterinary urologists and nephrologists - like
you disputed Cornell and U-C Davis and about 8 other veterinary
universities - that all proved you wrong!

I won't waste my time posting studies that back up what I said
because you'll just convolute and manipulate them like you usually do to
suit your purpose. But here's just one that should take you quite awhile to
convolute and manipulate. Its an oldie but goodie that's still cited in
current veterinary literatu

Vet Med Small Anim Clin. 1970. 65(5):461-8.
Clinical report on 46 cases of feline urological syndrome
Osbaldiston GW, Taussig RA.

Have fun! LOL!


eventually you will understand the things I write

Now that's a scary thought and a dreadful thing to look forward to.

You need to get your head out of you test tubes and start learning something
about real, live cats.

My information saves cats' lives - yours will kill them.

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message news:
The higher urine volume dilutes the concentration of all solutes in
the
urine making them easier to eliminate. More frequent urination
results
in
the elimination of the solutes before they aggregate or accrete into
larger
and larger particles that eventually become calculi and interfere
with
normal urination. The longer that calculi remain in the urinary
tract,
the
larger they can grow and the less likely they are to be eliminated.
Phil.

Uauuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!! You´ve
been studying chemistry!!!! )))

I've been telling people this for years -- long, long before you showed
up.
Unlike your information, mine is accurate.

Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah.. like your deadly delusion about how adult cats can't become infected
with FeLV? Or your infamous delusion about dissolving calcium oxalate
uroliths in cats with water? Four out of the four vets who read your
nonsensical explanation thought you were a "nut case" (their words, not
mine) and also thought you were "very dangerous" because you can write your
nonsense with a "scientific flair" that makes it sound believable to the
average pet owner.

Now you're trying to dispute veterinary urologists and nephrologists - like
you disputed Cornell and U-C Davis and about 8 other veterinary
universities - that all proved you wrong!

I won't waste my time posting studies that back up what I said
because you'll just convolute and manipulate them like you usually do to
suit your purpose. But here's just one that should take you quite awhile to
convolute and manipulate. Its an oldie but goodie that's still cited in
current veterinary literatu

Vet Med Small Anim Clin. 1970. 65(5):461-8.
Clinical report on 46 cases of feline urological syndrome
Osbaldiston GW, Taussig RA.

Have fun! LOL!


eventually you will understand the things I write

Now that's a scary thought and a dreadful thing to look forward to.

You need to get your head out of you test tubes and start learning something
about real, live cats.

My information saves cats' lives - yours will kill them.

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah.. like your deadly delusion about how adult cats can't become infected
with FeLV?

I never said that. That vet did. And I accepted that adults cats might
become infected and that could be due to inbreeding.

Or your infamous delusion about dissolving calcium oxalate
uroliths in cats with water?

You will get there. I really admire you for trying. Most people *hate*
chemistry.

Vet Med Small Anim Clin. 1970. 65(5):461-8.
Clinical report on 46 cases of feline urological syndrome
Osbaldiston GW, Taussig RA.

Thanks. I´ll give it a look.

My information saves cats' lives - yours will kill them.

Never happened. Actually, I´ve saved a few myself.