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Old November 9th 03, 07:12 PM
eric
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Approximately 2 months ago, my cat, Luther, a sweet gray tabby, went
to the vet and was diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome. He was
placed on prednisone and Imuran for this. I, foolishly, trusted the
vet and did not research the drugs being administered. The IBD seemed
to improve but about 2 weeks before he died, he started slowing down,
sleeping more, not eating as much but I attributed this to him being
14 years old and just being tired. About 2 weeks before he died the
vet gave him a routine vaccination shot, and Luther seemed to hardly
eat anything. I rushed him to the vet on October 28th, 2003. He was
admitted to the hospital and they began to run tests and put him on
Lasix for fluid around his lungs and antibiotics and prednisone. They
also discontinued the Imuran. He did not improve, they gave him a
blood transfusion and when I visited him he seemed improved but 2 days
later his blood count dropped again and they gave him another blood
transfusion but his blood count barely improved. On November 4th, as I
got to work, I got a phone call from the vet saying Luther passed some
time in the early morning hours. I started to do research on the
medicine the vet prescribed for his IBD, Imuran, and according to the
article to which I am attaching the link. Imuran should be used
extremely carefully, if at all in cats. Other web sites recommend
never using this drug on cats. Imuran is an immunosuppressive
anti-metabolite. It also suppresses the bone marrow's ability to
produce blood cells. Or, you might say, it kills the bones. We greatly
miss Luther. He was a true gentleman; the king of the house. He raised
a kitten, Waldo, I brought into the house 7 years ago. He washed him,
protected him, and taught him.We called him Waldo's("Baby Waldo's")
"mommy/daddy" because he was both to him. He is missed so much and I
am very angry that the vet would prescribe such a toxic drug to my
cat. Don't kill your cat with this stuff. It's poison.


LUTHER
1989-NOV.4, 2003
WE LOVE YOU AND WE MISS YOU LUTHEY




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Old November 9th 03, 10:11 PM
MacCandace
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We greatly
miss Luther. He was a true gentleman; the king of the house. He raised
a kitten, Waldo, I brought into the house 7 years ago. He washed him,
protected him, and taught him.We called him Waldo's("Baby Waldo's")
"mommy/daddy" because he was both to him.

I'm very sorry about Luther and that he had to go in such a way. I would
certainly try to seek some justice, although it won't help Luther now, if this
drug is not safe fro cats. Again, my deepest sympathies to you and Waldo, too.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
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Old November 9th 03, 10:11 PM
MacCandace
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We greatly
miss Luther. He was a true gentleman; the king of the house. He raised
a kitten, Waldo, I brought into the house 7 years ago. He washed him,
protected him, and taught him.We called him Waldo's("Baby Waldo's")
"mommy/daddy" because he was both to him.

I'm very sorry about Luther and that he had to go in such a way. I would
certainly try to seek some justice, although it won't help Luther now, if this
drug is not safe fro cats. Again, my deepest sympathies to you and Waldo, too.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
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Old November 9th 03, 10:51 PM
Mary
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He is missed so much and I
am very angry that the vet would prescribe such a toxic drug to my
cat. Don't kill your cat with this stuff. It's poison.


That doesn't look good. I used to trust vets and doctors like God. I no longer
do that. I always do my own research. I've saved quite a few animals this way.
I had a cat with IBD. Over ten years ago, there weren't too many drugs
available. My vet told me to put him to sleep. He'd get bloody mucousy diarrhea
but acted healthy. Instead I formulated my own natural cat food. Just whole
grain rice cooked mixed half and half with roated chicken. This was years
before the canned rice/chicken and rice/lamb came out. I think my cat was just
allergic to cat food additives, preservatives, artificial flavorings,
colorings... He was never sick again. I wish your doctor had talked to you
about natural safe remedies before giving him drugs, especially drugs with such
a history. They used to give cats baytril or something I think. It's not
approved for cats. They no longer prescribe it because it can cause blindness.
Some vets still don't know this! I think it was baytril, could be something
else so don't quote me here. I suggest to everyone, double check your vets
advice. Run a google search on prescribed medications and treatments. I do this
with my own health issues and have been rewarded. I'm so sorry you had to
experience this.
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Old November 9th 03, 10:51 PM
Mary
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He is missed so much and I
am very angry that the vet would prescribe such a toxic drug to my
cat. Don't kill your cat with this stuff. It's poison.


That doesn't look good. I used to trust vets and doctors like God. I no longer
do that. I always do my own research. I've saved quite a few animals this way.
I had a cat with IBD. Over ten years ago, there weren't too many drugs
available. My vet told me to put him to sleep. He'd get bloody mucousy diarrhea
but acted healthy. Instead I formulated my own natural cat food. Just whole
grain rice cooked mixed half and half with roated chicken. This was years
before the canned rice/chicken and rice/lamb came out. I think my cat was just
allergic to cat food additives, preservatives, artificial flavorings,
colorings... He was never sick again. I wish your doctor had talked to you
about natural safe remedies before giving him drugs, especially drugs with such
a history. They used to give cats baytril or something I think. It's not
approved for cats. They no longer prescribe it because it can cause blindness.
Some vets still don't know this! I think it was baytril, could be something
else so don't quote me here. I suggest to everyone, double check your vets
advice. Run a google search on prescribed medications and treatments. I do this
with my own health issues and have been rewarded. I'm so sorry you had to
experience this.
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Old November 10th 03, 12:36 AM
Cathy Friedmann
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
They used to give cats baytril or something I think. It's not
approved for cats. They no longer prescribe it because it can cause

blindness.
Some vets still don't know this! I think it was baytril, could be

something
else so don't quote me here.


Yes, I'm quite sure you're thinking of Baytril, however AFAIK, this isn't
true.

There was a HUGE thread about Baytril quite a while ago - a year & a half to
a couple of years ago, maybe? It can cause eye probs, incl. blindness (but
also incl. much less severe eye probs), but only *if* the dosage exceeds the
recommended dosage. The recommended dosage is 5 mg per kilogram of body
weight per day. Baytril is a potent drug, & is usually reserved for use
after a first, or even 2nd, antibiotic fails to be effective.

After the huge discussion about it had taken place here, I asked one of my
vets about his use of Baytril & Orbax (a similar drug preferred by some); he
said that he uses both of them almost exclusively as a 2 or 3rd line of
defense. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, in which he may decide
that Baytril or Orbax is preferable & needed as the first drug of choice.
He knew of no cat that has gone blind due to the use of Baytril at its
recommended dosage. When we (here) tried to find an instance where a cat
had gone blind on Baytril at its recommended dosage, all we ever found after
much digging was a study in which one older cat (16 yrs. old, IIRC) who'd
gone blind. Otoh, there were no details provided by the study; IOW, it was
possible that the cat was hypertensive to begin with & was blind as a result
of its high blood pressure - no clue as to the actual cause.

One of my cats was on Baytril, along w/ 3 other drugs, for over 4 years - it
greatly helped her. (She had a chronic liver problem.) She was on another
antibiotic at first, but it was not helping, so the vets - specialist
(internist/oncologist) along w/ the regular vet - switched her over to
Baytril. Another one of my cats was on it for a couple of weeks about 3
years ago, when the first line of defense antibiotic didn't clear up his
UTI. Baytril worked.

Cathy

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"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon




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Old November 10th 03, 12:36 AM
Cathy Friedmann
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
They used to give cats baytril or something I think. It's not
approved for cats. They no longer prescribe it because it can cause

blindness.
Some vets still don't know this! I think it was baytril, could be

something
else so don't quote me here.


Yes, I'm quite sure you're thinking of Baytril, however AFAIK, this isn't
true.

There was a HUGE thread about Baytril quite a while ago - a year & a half to
a couple of years ago, maybe? It can cause eye probs, incl. blindness (but
also incl. much less severe eye probs), but only *if* the dosage exceeds the
recommended dosage. The recommended dosage is 5 mg per kilogram of body
weight per day. Baytril is a potent drug, & is usually reserved for use
after a first, or even 2nd, antibiotic fails to be effective.

After the huge discussion about it had taken place here, I asked one of my
vets about his use of Baytril & Orbax (a similar drug preferred by some); he
said that he uses both of them almost exclusively as a 2 or 3rd line of
defense. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, in which he may decide
that Baytril or Orbax is preferable & needed as the first drug of choice.
He knew of no cat that has gone blind due to the use of Baytril at its
recommended dosage. When we (here) tried to find an instance where a cat
had gone blind on Baytril at its recommended dosage, all we ever found after
much digging was a study in which one older cat (16 yrs. old, IIRC) who'd
gone blind. Otoh, there were no details provided by the study; IOW, it was
possible that the cat was hypertensive to begin with & was blind as a result
of its high blood pressure - no clue as to the actual cause.

One of my cats was on Baytril, along w/ 3 other drugs, for over 4 years - it
greatly helped her. (She had a chronic liver problem.) She was on another
antibiotic at first, but it was not helping, so the vets - specialist
(internist/oncologist) along w/ the regular vet - switched her over to
Baytril. Another one of my cats was on it for a couple of weeks about 3
years ago, when the first line of defense antibiotic didn't clear up his
UTI. Baytril worked.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon




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Old November 10th 03, 12:36 AM
Cathy Friedmann
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
They used to give cats baytril or something I think. It's not
approved for cats. They no longer prescribe it because it can cause

blindness.
Some vets still don't know this! I think it was baytril, could be

something
else so don't quote me here.


Yes, I'm quite sure you're thinking of Baytril, however AFAIK, this isn't
true.

There was a HUGE thread about Baytril quite a while ago - a year & a half to
a couple of years ago, maybe? It can cause eye probs, incl. blindness (but
also incl. much less severe eye probs), but only *if* the dosage exceeds the
recommended dosage. The recommended dosage is 5 mg per kilogram of body
weight per day. Baytril is a potent drug, & is usually reserved for use
after a first, or even 2nd, antibiotic fails to be effective.

After the huge discussion about it had taken place here, I asked one of my
vets about his use of Baytril & Orbax (a similar drug preferred by some); he
said that he uses both of them almost exclusively as a 2 or 3rd line of
defense. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, in which he may decide
that Baytril or Orbax is preferable & needed as the first drug of choice.
He knew of no cat that has gone blind due to the use of Baytril at its
recommended dosage. When we (here) tried to find an instance where a cat
had gone blind on Baytril at its recommended dosage, all we ever found after
much digging was a study in which one older cat (16 yrs. old, IIRC) who'd
gone blind. Otoh, there were no details provided by the study; IOW, it was
possible that the cat was hypertensive to begin with & was blind as a result
of its high blood pressure - no clue as to the actual cause.

One of my cats was on Baytril, along w/ 3 other drugs, for over 4 years - it
greatly helped her. (She had a chronic liver problem.) She was on another
antibiotic at first, but it was not helping, so the vets - specialist
(internist/oncologist) along w/ the regular vet - switched her over to
Baytril. Another one of my cats was on it for a couple of weeks about 3
years ago, when the first line of defense antibiotic didn't clear up his
UTI. Baytril worked.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon




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Old November 10th 03, 04:26 AM
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In ,
eric composed with style:


LUTHER
1989-NOV.4, 2003
WE LOVE YOU AND WE MISS YOU LUTHEY

I am so sorry for your loss. I do not think it was any drug to treat
the IBS but perhaps the vaccination. I do not know this as fact but I
do know vets should not vaccinate a cat that is ill. Peaceful
crossing to the bridge, Luther.


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Old November 10th 03, 04:26 AM
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In ,
eric composed with style:


LUTHER
1989-NOV.4, 2003
WE LOVE YOU AND WE MISS YOU LUTHEY

I am so sorry for your loss. I do not think it was any drug to treat
the IBS but perhaps the vaccination. I do not know this as fact but I
do know vets should not vaccinate a cat that is ill. Peaceful
crossing to the bridge, Luther.


 




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