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Old August 22nd 03, 12:20 AM
Yoj
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I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor. (I always divide it
into two dishes so Skeeter won't feel left out, even though she almost
never eats any) When I put the food down, Lindy will sometimes lick off
any gravy, and occasionally she will take a nibble or two. Sometimes
she won't even go near the dish, or goes up to it and gives it a
disgusted look. Then she wants out. I leave the dishes down until
bedtime and then pick them up.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy


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Old August 22nd 03, 02:12 AM
ann
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Yes she would most likely pester you but, if you can stand it don't put down
the food. After a few days she might stop looking for it. I have never had
this problem but why put food down that is not going to be eaten. Have you
thought about just giving her a cat treat and not the food .

Ann

Yoj wrote:

I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor. (I always divide it
into two dishes so Skeeter won't feel left out, even though she almost
never eats any) When I put the food down, Lindy will sometimes lick off
any gravy, and occasionally she will take a nibble or two. Sometimes
she won't even go near the dish, or goes up to it and gives it a
disgusted look. Then she wants out. I leave the dishes down until
bedtime and then pick them up.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy


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Old August 22nd 03, 08:44 AM
Yoj
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I like the idea of the cat treat. I usually give her a few last thing
at night, so I know she likes them. That might do the trick.

--
Joy


"ann" wrote in message
...
Yes she would most likely pester you but, if you can stand it don't

put down
the food. After a few days she might stop looking for it. I have never

had
this problem but why put food down that is not going to be eaten. Have

you
thought about just giving her a cat treat and not the food .

Ann

Yoj wrote:

I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but

dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure

to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any

of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry

kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry

food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps

pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor. (I always divide it
into two dishes so Skeeter won't feel left out, even though she

almost
never eats any) When I put the food down, Lindy will sometimes lick

off
any gravy, and occasionally she will take a nibble or two.

Sometimes
she won't even go near the dish, or goes up to it and gives it a
disgusted look. Then she wants out. I leave the dishes down until
bedtime and then pick them up.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would

probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy




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Old August 22nd 03, 12:37 PM
Karen Chuplis
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in article , Yoj
at wrote on 8/22/03 2:43 AM:

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
in article

, Yoj
at
wrote on 8/21/03 6:20 PM:

I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but

dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure

to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any

of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry

kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry

food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps

pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor. (I always divide it
into two dishes so Skeeter won't feel left out, even though she

almost
never eats any) When I put the food down, Lindy will sometimes lick

off
any gravy, and occasionally she will take a nibble or two.

Sometimes
she won't even go near the dish, or goes up to it and gives it a
disgusted look. Then she wants out. I leave the dishes down until
bedtime and then pick them up.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would

probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy


My doctor said that she finally decided it was *much* better to get

them to
eat, than to worry about them eating the k/d or g/d. She lost too many
battles trying to enforce a strict diet.

Karen


Maybe I didn't put things clearly. They both eat the KD dry food, and
seem to enjoy it. I haven't bothered with KD for the canned food, since
Skeeter doesn't eat canned food, and Lindy doesn't need the special
diet.

Joy

Joy



Ah, sorry. My mistake!

Karen

  #5  
Old August 22nd 03, 12:37 PM
Karen Chuplis
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in article , Yoj
at wrote on 8/22/03 2:43 AM:

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
in article

, Yoj
at
wrote on 8/21/03 6:20 PM:

I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but

dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure

to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any

of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry

kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry

food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps

pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor. (I always divide it
into two dishes so Skeeter won't feel left out, even though she

almost
never eats any) When I put the food down, Lindy will sometimes lick

off
any gravy, and occasionally she will take a nibble or two.

Sometimes
she won't even go near the dish, or goes up to it and gives it a
disgusted look. Then she wants out. I leave the dishes down until
bedtime and then pick them up.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would

probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy


My doctor said that she finally decided it was *much* better to get

them to
eat, than to worry about them eating the k/d or g/d. She lost too many
battles trying to enforce a strict diet.

Karen


Maybe I didn't put things clearly. They both eat the KD dry food, and
seem to enjoy it. I haven't bothered with KD for the canned food, since
Skeeter doesn't eat canned food, and Lindy doesn't need the special
diet.

Joy

Joy



Ah, sorry. My mistake!

Karen

  #6  
Old August 22nd 03, 05:59 PM
polonca12000
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No suggestions, but lots of purrs and best wishes for your problem to solve
itself somehow. Does the vet have any ideas regarding this?
--
Polonca & Soncek

"Yoj" wrote in message
...
snip I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy




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Old August 23rd 03, 11:20 PM
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Stop free feeding the cats and feed them on a 12 hour schedule. If they
have food availble all the time it is impossible to monitor how much
they are eating and makes it more difficult to get them to eat when you
want them to. Since you have a cat with kidney problems, you should be
trying to get him to eat "more" canned food and eliminate the dry.
Eliminating the canned food for either cat is a bad idea. Canned food is
healthier for cats. If you want to educate yourslf about canned food vs.
dry you can read more by clicking on the link and scrolling down to the
canned vs. dry section:
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm

I feed my cats a mostly canned diet on a schedule and don't have any
eating issues. They finish everything in about 20 minutes. If one is
sick I know immediately when they don't show up at mealtime.

Megan



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elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
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way."

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Old August 24th 03, 01:03 AM
Yoj
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All cats, like all people, are not alike. Some eat on schedule, and
some are grazers. To start withholding food from 10-year-old cat who is
a grazer would be cruel, IMO. My vet thinks the dry food is sufficient.

It is possible that if you start with a kitten, you can train them to
eat what, and when, you want. However, trying to change the eating
habits of a 10-year-old cat does not seem like a good idea to me. I was
apprehensive about switching to the KD, but fortunately she likes that.
I'm not pushing my luck.

Joy

wrote in message
...
Stop free feeding the cats and feed them on a 12 hour schedule. If

they
have food availble all the time it is impossible to monitor how much
they are eating and makes it more difficult to get them to eat when

you
want them to. Since you have a cat with kidney problems, you should be
trying to get him to eat "more" canned food and eliminate the dry.
Eliminating the canned food for either cat is a bad idea. Canned food

is
healthier for cats. If you want to educate yourslf about canned food

vs.
dry you can read more by clicking on the link and scrolling down to

the
canned vs. dry section:
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm

I feed my cats a mostly canned diet on a schedule and don't have any
eating issues. They finish everything in about 20 minutes. If one is
sick I know immediately when they don't show up at mealtime.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to

do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the

decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings

and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come

his
way."

- W.H. Murray




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Old August 24th 03, 05:18 PM
Victor M. Martinez
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Yoj wrote:
All cats, like all people, are not alike. Some eat on schedule, and
some are grazers. To start withholding food from 10-year-old cat who is


I agree.

a grazer would be cruel, IMO. My vet thinks the dry food is sufficient.


But have you asked if s/he thinks canned food would be better? Canned food
is indeed a better food for all cats, particularly those with ailments.

habits of a 10-year-old cat does not seem like a good idea to me. I was
apprehensive about switching to the KD, but fortunately she likes that.
I'm not pushing my luck.


And it's great that you're doing what you think it's best for your cat.

--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

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Old August 24th 03, 07:03 PM
MaryL
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"Yoj" wrote in message
...
I'm at a loss what to do. Skeeter almost never eats anything but dry
food. Lindy eats (or has eaten in the past) both wet and dry food.
Lindy gets very picky at times, and at one time I kept a record of
everything I fed her and how much of it she ate, so I could be sure to
buy the kinds of food she likes. Now she doesn't seem to like any of
it.

Since Skeeter is now on KD, they are both eating that - the dry kind.
Lately, Lindy has not been eating the canned food at all. The dry food
is down all the time, and I try to feed Lindy the wet food at around
6:00. Every day she starts pestering me about 5:00, and keeps pestering
until I go out and put the dishes on the floor.

I'm getting tired of spending the money on food she doesn't eat,
especially since KD is so much more expensive than Friskies. I'm
tempted to stop putting down the canned food, but that would probably
mean she would keep pestering me until bedtime.

Any suggestions?

Joy



I suggest that you stop free-feeding and begin a scheduled feeding,
preferably with canned food. Since you are feeding KD, I assume that one of
your cats has kidney problems. It particularly important to monitor that
cat's eating habits. I noticed that you expressed concern (in an earlier
response) about shifting cats that are happy with their current eating
habits to another system. I had the same concerns. My cat, Holly, is a
little more than 8 years old. She is very healthy, but she had put on an
extra pound of weight over the past year -- so, after 7 years of optimum
weight, I could now see the possibilities of her becoming overweight. At
about that same time, I adopted Duffy. He is blind and was in a shelter for
several months prior to adoption. He was much too thin at that time and
clearly needed better nutrition. His estimated age is 5 years. Both cats
were used to free-feeding on dry food. After doing a lot of reading about
the subject and talking with some Internet friends, I decided that I should
feed premium canned food to try to achieve a healthier diet.

I faced one of the dilemmas you described -- that is, both cats clearly
preferred dry food, and I felt cruel for trying to force them to adapt to a
different diet. At the same time, I felt that it would be much healthier.
I didn't try to do it "cold turkey." Instead, I made the transition over a
period of two or three weeks. However, I did remove the unlimited amount of
dry food that had previously been available to them and began to put out
appropriate portions, along with their canned food. My cats now eat
Wellness canned and Felidae canned foods. Each cat receives 1/3 can of food
twice a day (I use the small 5.5 or 6 oz. cans because I only have two
cats). I schedule their feedings for 12 hours apart, or as close to that as
possible. I originally just fed "morning and evening," but the cats often
seemed hungry and would beg for food. Switching to a 12-hour schedule --
which is still morning and evening but on a much more regular basis -- had a
remarkably positive effect. Suddenly, the cats seemed satisfied with their
meals and no longer beg for food in-between meals. Their coats look
beautiful, they have energy, and they are now at optimal weights. Oddly,
Holly lost her extra weight and Duffy gained his; but now they both hold
constant, steady weights. (I did use Innova canned for Duffy for the first
month because he was much too thin, then switched to the diet I just
described.) Much to my surprise, they also have fewer furballs!!
Approximately every 3 days, I put out 2/3 cup of Wellness dry food as a
"treat" and just leave it until it is gone (1/3 cup in each of two separate
bowls, although either cat will eat out of each bowl). They now take
occasional nibbles of the dry food, and it usually lasts for 2 or 3 days.

I have found that this diet is not as costly as it sounds because the cats
consume less of this food than they did of "cheaper" food, yet they are
satisfied and their weight is good. It does take some time to complete the
transformation, and that period is when I went through such guilt pangs. I
love my cats and wanted the best for them, and I certainly wanted them to be
happy. Well, that transition period is very short; and I think a healthier
life for them was well worth the effort. If your cat has kidney problems
(as I suspect from the KD), then that is something else that needs to be
carefully considered in your choices. It would be a good idea to completely
eliminate dry food under these circumstances.

MaryL

Photos of Duffy and Holly (pictorial history of my blind cat Duffy's
integration into our household):
Duffy, Part I: The Introduction -- http://tinyurl.com/8y54
Duffy, Part II: Life at Home -- http://tinyurl.com/8y56



 




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