Tigger update 2

Christina Websell wrote:

I visited Tigger yesterday (because it was my brother's birthday!) gave me
the excuse.
He has not been outside since his car accident.
I thought he would look a lot more "smashed up" than he does, since the vet
said he would be disfigured. His cheek is slightly sunken one side, but you
would not notice if you were not looking for it. He will never have one of
his eyebrows again, it was completely taken off and he has a scar there
which will be permanent.

Poor guy! He really got hurt. I'm glad it wasn't worse, and I'm glad
he's getting better. And I certainly hope they won't let him out again
once the wire is out and he's recovered from his injuries - not until
he's old enough and smart enough to stay out of the way of cars.

Purrs,
Joyce

Christina Websell wrote:

7 weeks old?? Castrating a little boycat at that age? No way do I agree
with that.
I like to see them grow into a decent shape like a male should be before the
snip. Male kittens castrated too early have small slim faces like females
all their life. Hence my cousin saying that Boyfie looked like the Cheshire
Cat - she had her male kitten neutered early too.

KFC's Licky was neutered pretty young (I got him at 3 months old and
it had already been done), and he does indeed have a small, slim face.
But I think it looks quite elegant on him - it makes him look like a
miniature leopard (especially when he slinks around the house like one),
or maybe some fancy cat breed. Not to say I don't like males with their
tomcat face pouches, too!

Didn't the Cheshire cat have a wide, intact-tom sort of face, actually?
That's what allowed him the big grin.

Joyce

Mark Edwards wrote:

He took the day off, went immediately to the vet, and dropped $8000.00 on
fixing up the cat "It's my kid's cat, you know."

From that day on, he was Tweety's number one person, and he would pet her
and coo to her, but he NEVER EVER admitted to liking cats, the old
curmudgeon.

Oh, and he never let her go out after that - to protect his investment, he
claimed (big grin).

LOL, "I don't like cats... oh, hello Tweety sweetheart scritch scritch
scritch, there's a good girl pet pet..."

He must have been a hero to those kids!

Joyce

7 weeks old?? Castrating a little boycat at that age? No way do I agree
with that.
I like to see them grow into a decent shape like a male should be before the
snip. Male kittens castrated too early have small slim faces like females
all their life. Hence my cousin saying that Boyfie looked like the Cheshire
Cat - she had her male kitten neutered early too.

Early castration also increases the risk of urinary tract blockage in later
life - the plumbing just doesn't grow big enough. The usual recommendation
seems to be 6 months.

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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I visited Tigger yesterday (because it was my brother's birthday!) gave me
the excuse.
He has not been outside since his car accident.
I thought he would look a lot more "smashed up" than he does, since the
vet said he would be disfigured. His cheek is slightly sunken one side,
but you would not notice if you were not looking for it. He will never
have one of his eyebrows again, it was completely taken off and he has a
scar there which will be permanent.
He has his jaw wires out in two weeks and at the same time he will get the
snip while he is under anaesthetic.
He's so small and slight, I can't believe he needs to be snipped just yet.
If he were mine I would wait 3 months at least until he is bigger and more
mature.
He looks like a tiny tabby Abyssinian(sp?) with his little pointed face.

Tweed


If he is going to need anesthesia to get the wires out, it is likely better
to get the snip at the same time. The anesthetic is the risk, much more so
than the snip.

Jo

"Mark Edwards" wrote in message
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Christina's Tigger update reminded me of this - Let me go back about 25
years...

My ex, who severely messed me up emotionally, had one saving grace (okay,
two, but this is polite company - evil grin). She showed me that I am
,beyond any doubt, a cat person. My first cat was her eight year old
orange
tabby named Aladdin. It both bothered her and amused her that I became his
person. I hope I see her again one day, to thank her...

Anyway, on to the story.

Marie's father professed not to like cats. Both of his kids had cats -
Tweety and Aladdin, though, so he tolerated the cats. He loved his kids a
lot.

Her father was a master carpenter, and he had a big, beautiful, shiny new
work truck. He really loved that truck.

One morning, he was backing out of the driveway. He saw something in the
road. Tweety had ben hit and badly hurt, and was lying in the road. More
traffic was coming! He backed his new truck across traffic, to barricade
Tweety from further traffic. He darn near got his truck hit three times,
while he scooped Tweety up and put her in the truck, on the clean, new
upholstery.

He took the day off, went immediately to the vet, and dropped $8000.00 on
fixing up the cat "It's my kid's cat, you know."

From that day on, he was Tweety's number one person, and he would pet her
and coo to her, but he NEVER EVER admitted to liking cats, the old
curmudgeon.

Oh, and he never let her go out after that - to protect his investment, he
claimed (big grin).


Well you said he was a master carpenter. Craftsman rules, you fix it - its
yours.

My dad was the same way.

Jo

"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message
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7 weeks old?? Castrating a little boycat at that age? No way do I agree
with that.
I like to see them grow into a decent shape like a male should be before
the
snip. Male kittens castrated too early have small slim faces like
females
all their life. Hence my cousin saying that Boyfie looked like the
Cheshire
Cat - she had her male kitten neutered early too.

Early castration also increases the risk of urinary tract blockage in
later
life - the plumbing just doesn't grow big enough. The usual
recommendation
seems to be 6 months.

Nope, not true. Have a look at this article by the Cat Fanciers'
Association on the subject:
http://www.cfa.org/articles/health/early-neuter.html

Hugs,

CatNipped


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Christina Websell wrote:

7 weeks old?? Castrating a little boycat at that age? No way do I agree
with that.
I like to see them grow into a decent shape like a male should be before
the
snip. Male kittens castrated too early have small slim faces like
females
all their life. Hence my cousin saying that Boyfie looked like the
Cheshire
Cat - she had her male kitten neutered early too.

KFC's Licky was neutered pretty young (I got him at 3 months old and
it had already been done), and he does indeed have a small, slim face.
But I think it looks quite elegant on him - it makes him look like a
miniature leopard (especially when he slinks around the house like one),
or maybe some fancy cat breed. Not to say I don't like males with their
tomcat face pouches, too!

It's just my own opinion only that I like to see the boys grow into their
body before they are neutered. I am fairly sure that my vet practice will
not normally do it until 6 months of age. Next time I am there I will ask
them if there is a good reason for it.

Didn't the Cheshire cat have a wide, intact-tom sort of face, actually?
That's what allowed him the big grin.

Yes. Boyfie was a strapping young lad when he arrived here intact. Another
couple of months before he would come in the house and about the same again
before I thought it would not destroy his trust for me to pick him up and
take him for the snip. Hence my cousin Margi comparing him to the Cheshire
Cat, he has quite a wide face and always has a smile on it.

Tweed

"jofirey" wrote in message
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If he is going to need anesthesia to get the wires out, it is likely
better to get the snip at the same time. The anesthetic is the risk, much
more so than the snip.

Yes, he will need anaesthesia to have his wires out and that's why the vet
will neuter him at the same time. Two birds with one stone, so to speak.

Tweed

It's just my own opinion only that I like to see the boys grow into
their
body before they are neutered. I am fairly sure that my vet practice will
not normally do it until 6 months of age. Next time I am there I will ask
them if there is a good reason for it.

*MOST* UK vets don't like to neuter boycats before about 5-6 months of
age. It gives them a chance to develop, in the same way a lot of UK
vets don't spay girl cats before 5 months. In the USA it is very
common for a pediatric neuter/spay at 2lbs. But then in the USA,
girlcats are routinely spayed using a midline spay and in the UK they
are spayed using a keyhole flank spay....

Personally, I believe that cats should be allowed to develop a little
bit before being speutered, but then I also see the common sense in
spaying them early before adoption. I've lost track of the number of
people handing pregnant kitten-cats into rescue because they
accidentally got pregnant. Pros and cons for both I guess.

Helen M