Now that most of the shock has worn off....

Joy wrote:
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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"Jofirey" wrote in message
...

The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the
situation or get sued by anyone you single out.

Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists
etc if allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be
messed up nearly as quickly.

Jo


Unfortunately, that pretty well sums it up. It is unusual to do
this without any advance notice, but even that is becoming more
common. The only time I saw that happen is when the head of the
computer department was fired. He was permitted to go back to his
office for his personal items, but only with a security officer
accompanying him. There were apparently concerns that damage could
be done very quickly to the computer system.

MaryL

I can see that such concerns would be valid, especially when somebody
had been blindsided like that. However, I still think they could
have treated her like a human being by letting someone accompany her
to get her purse and any other personal items. I know that when I
was working, I had various things of my own in or on my desk.

Joy

They boxed my stuff up and shipped it to me. All I could leave with was my
purse, my lunch bag & a book I'd been reading on my lunch hour. Sad to say
it's just the way things are these days. I worked in I.T. and while I could
have done some damage I couldn't have done it without taking a few minutes
to write a Unix script and uucp it to all the servers. Not something you
can do if you don't have advance notice. But I suppose paranoia has its
place; I could have connected from home and done the same thing (not that I
would have). Of course the first order of business is to change the root
password before the person has even left the parking lot.

Jill

Jane wrote:
I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue.
The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that
was it. They wanted me Off The Project, and I wasn't even allowed to
go back to my office to pick up my purse. He had to go get it for
me. My co-workers have to pack up the rest of my stuff.

OY!!! Having been there, I send my understanding, and my sound agreement that
not only did you work for a Rat ******* but that it is the nicest thing you
can call the little douchebag.

I got that three times in my life. Each time it was because my job ended up
being transferred to some schmuck in Mumbai, or any other place where they
get paid a pittance to not speak English to callers who never learned
Gujarati in high school. Your boss can go join the Rat ******* union
alongside my former bosses. You are destined for far better things.

Blesssed be,
Baha

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"Joy" wrote in message
...
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
. ..

"Jofirey" wrote in message
...

The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the
situation or get sued by anyone you single out.

Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if
allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up
nearly as quickly.

Jo


Unfortunately, that pretty well sums it up. It is unusual to do this
without any advance notice, but even that is becoming more common. The
only time I saw that happen is when the head of the computer department
was fired. He was permitted to go back to his office for his personal
items, but only with a security officer accompanying him. There were
apparently concerns that damage could be done very quickly to the
computer system.

MaryL

I can see that such concerns would be valid, especially when somebody had
been blindsided like that. However, I still think they could have treated
her like a human being by letting someone accompany her to get her purse
and any other personal items. I know that when I was working, I had
various things of my own in or on my desk.

Joy


Oh, I absolutely agree. I was also horrified at how the head of our
computer department was treated, and for the same reasons. This type of
process is dehumanizing and humiliating. I also think it's outrageous not
to give some advance notice. I am planning to retire in August, and I gave
*more than a year's notice* to our department so they would have plenty of
advance notice to get a search underway. Of course, it does take close to a
year to fill our positions (authorization, meetings with human resources,
department meetings, listing, committee meetings, reference checks,
interviews, etc.), but I think responsibility should work *both* directions.

MaryL

I am sorry Jane it is happening to a lot of people


"Jane" wrote in message
...
I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue.
The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that
was it. They wanted me Off The Project, and I wasn't even allowed to
go back to my office to pick up my purse. He had to go get it for
me. My co-workers have to pack up the rest of my stuff.

I've been there almost exactly 4 years. Everybody seems to like me. A
couple of departments think I can walk on water because I always take
the time to take care of them properly (helping them with computer
stuff). One of my co-workers called me at home to find out details,
and he says that this is 'messed up'. Even the project manager was
****ed. There's something funny going on, and he needs ask some
questions. Meanwhile, I have full pay until the end of July, and
benefits until the end of August. That's it. 2 months to find a new
job.

I spent most of Friday evening on the phone, yelling that 'that Rat
******* FIRED me!!' I had to get that out of my system, you see,
because calling him 'that rat *******' in an interview wouldn't go
over well. *grin* Officially, this is going to be called a layoff,
so getting a new job shouldn't be a problem.

I would enjoy this 'vacation' so much more if I knew when the ending
would be.

*sigh*

The Princess Rita doesn't seem to care that I'm home. I think this is
going to hit really hard on Monday, when I have nowhere to go.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita

Adrian wrote:
Jane wrote:
I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no clue.
The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that
was it. They wanted me Off The Project, and I wasn't even allowed to
go back to my office to pick up my purse. He had to go get it for
me. My co-workers have to pack up the rest of my stuff.
snip

{{{{{{{{{ Jane }}}}}}}}} The way you got fired would be illegal here. Purrs
that you find an even better job asap.

It would be illegal here, too. Purrs are on-going.

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

On Jul 5, 7:49*am, Jane wrote:
I got FIRED on Thursday!! *There was no issues, no warning, no clue.
The project manager just said that he needed to speak to me, and that
was it. *They wanted me Off The Project, and I wasn't even allowed to
go back to my office to pick up my purse. *He had to go get it for
me. *My co-workers have to pack up the rest of my stuff.

I've been there almost exactly 4 years. *Everybody seems to like me. A
couple of departments think I can walk on water because I always take
the time to take care of them properly (helping them with computer
stuff). *One of my co-workers called me at home to find out details,
and he says that this is 'messed up'. *Even the project manager was
****ed. *There's something funny going on, and he needs ask some
questions. *Meanwhile, I have full pay until the end of July, and
benefits until the end of August. *That's it. *2 months to find a new
job.

I spent most of Friday evening on the phone, yelling that 'that Rat
******* FIRED me!!' I had to get that out of my system, you see,
because calling him 'that rat *******' in an interview wouldn't go
over well. **grin* * Officially, this is going to be called a layoff,
so getting a new job shouldn't be a problem.

I would enjoy this 'vacation' so much more if I knew when the ending
would be.

*sigh*

The Princess Rita doesn't seem to care that I'm home. *I think this is
going to hit really hard on Monday, when I have nowhere to go.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita

I'm so sorry Jane. What a rotten end to the week. I hope the project
manager DOES ask questions, and maybe gets the rat ******* in so much
trouble they have to give you your job back. Failing that, I hope you
get a much better job very soon!

Melissa

hopitus wrote:
On Jul 5, 11:06 pm, Shiral wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:49 am, Jane wrote:



I got FIRED on Thursday!! There was no issues, no warning, no
clue. The project manager just said that he needed to speak to
me, and that was it. They wanted me Off The Project, and I
wasn't even allowed to go back to my office to pick up my purse.
He had to go get it for me. My co-workers have to pack up the
rest of my stuff.

I've been there almost exactly 4 years. Everybody seems to like
me. A couple of departments think I can walk on water because I
always take the time to take care of them properly (helping them
with computer stuff). One of my co-workers called me at home to
find out details, and he says that this is 'messed up'. Even the
project manager was ****ed. There's something funny going on,
and he needs ask some questions. Meanwhile, I have full pay
until the end of July, and benefits until the end of August.
That's it. 2 months to find a new job.

I spent most of Friday evening on the phone, yelling that 'that
Rat ******* FIRED me!!' I had to get that out of my system, you
see, because calling him 'that rat *******' in an interview
wouldn't go over well. *grin* Officially, this is going to be
called a layoff, so getting a new job shouldn't be a problem.

I would enjoy this 'vacation' so much more if I knew when the
ending would be.

*sigh*

The Princess Rita doesn't seem to care that I'm home. I think
this is going to hit really hard on Monday, when I have nowhere
to go.

Jane
- owned and operated by the Princess Rita

I'm so sorry Jane. What a rotten end to the week. I hope the project
manager DOES ask questions, and maybe gets the rat ******* in so
much trouble they have to give you your job back. Failing that, I
hope you get a much better job very soon!

Melissa

I was surfing the news online and came across this job-loss article...
perhaps we could learn something from it?

http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-arti..._you_fired-427

Check it out.

"My general advice is, don't do anything on your own time that, if reported
in the local paper, would reflect poorly on you or your employer," Bales
told Yahoo! HotJobs. So that means if my boss doesn't like BBQ and I win a
contest for best Q I should be worried she'll read about it the paper?
Really, sometimes I think if they have this much time on their hands I
should have *their* job. I'm sure I could fill up my time with actual work,
rather than living vicariously (and jealously) through an employees' blog.

I get the point, though. Still, it doesn't make much sense to me that a
co-worker got totally drunk at a company party, practically had sex with her
[then] boyfriend on the dance floor got promoted. Oh, and they reserved a
hotel room so everyone could go up and get drunk and have a place to crash.
You'd have thought it was high school prom all over again... oh wait, she
was in her late 30s. You just never know, do you?

Keep in mind, even with higher edicts about firing, there are always
personalities involved. The manager who fired me didn't like the fact that
I didn't kow-tow to her simply because she came from the NYC office via
Chicago. I watched her make fun of a a co-worker (who had transferred from
North Carolina) simply because of her rather broad accent, all but saying
people who talk with southern accents must be stupid. Excuse me?! It's no
wonder this elitist (Nazi-like) woman got the boot after firing or running
off all the qualified people on the help desk!

Jill

On Jul 5, 5:16 pm, "Joy" wrote:
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message

. ..





"Jofirey" wrote in message
...

The reasons are legal. You have to treat everyone the same in the
situation or get sued by anyone you single out.

Jobs I've had, it would only take seconds to take client lists etc if
allowed back at your desk. I'm sure a computer could be messed up nearly
as quickly.

Jo

Unfortunately, that pretty well sums it up. It is unusual to do this
without any advance notice, but even that is becoming more common. The
only time I saw that happen is when the head of the computer department
was fired. He was permitted to go back to his office for his personal
items, but only with a security officer accompanying him. There were
apparently concerns that damage could be done very quickly to the computer
system.

MaryL

I can see that such concerns would be valid, especially when somebody had
been blindsided like that. However, I still think they could have treated
her like a human being by letting someone accompany her to get her purse and
any other personal items. I know that when I was working, I had various
things of my own in or on my desk.

Joy

Exactly! The guy who got fired a couple of weeks ago for gross
insubordination, at least *he* got to pack up his own office! On the
other hand, he was also perp-walked out the door by *five* police
officers. I could look at it as a blessing that I didn't get perp-
walked. It was very quiet.

Jane

On Jul 5, 10:38 pm, hopitus wrote:
On Jul 5, 11:06 pm, Shiral wrote:

I was surfing the news online and came across this job-loss article...
perhaps we could learn something from it?

http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-arti...tivities_that_...

Check it out.

Yes, I've been hearing rumors of stuff like that. It's not new.
HOWEVER, aside from being extremely large (but still very much
mobile), I have no risky behaviors. I live a quiet life, hanging with
my friends, going to church, sewing in my free time. Googling my
name comes up with Usenet posts from as far back as 1994, and nothing
is even close to objectionable. I am such a dull Jane. *grin*

Jane

Jane wrote in

I can see that such concerns would be valid, especially when somebody
had been blindsided like that. However, I still think they could
have treated her like a human being by letting someone accompany her
to get her purse and any other personal items. I know that when I
was working, I had various things of my own in or on my desk.

Joy

Exactly! The guy who got fired a couple of weeks ago for gross
insubordination, at least *he* got to pack up his own office! On the
other hand, he was also perp-walked out the door by *five* police
officers. I could look at it as a blessing that I didn't get perp-
walked. It was very quiet.

Jane


When they announced to the staff where I worked years ago that half of us
would be laid off soon, we were in shock. However, they cheered us up by
saying it wouldn't be done on a Friday. They were serious. Apparently human
resources folks did a study which showed that letting people go at the end
of the week spoils their weekend! What planet do these people live on?


Bobble