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There was no hurricane in the UK
From the BBC so it must be the truth
BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
On 10/28/2013 7:50 PM, John Ross Mc Master wrote:
From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. I only just heard about this powerful storm today. I hope all of my Brit friends and pets are ok and safe! -- CAPSLOCK–Preventing Login Since 1980. |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:50:49 -0700, John Ross Mc Master wrote:
From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. So, if a tropical storm forms over the Atlantic, grows to have winds strong enough to classify it as a hurricane, and the winds were still moving at hurricane speeds when it reaches Britain, it would not be classed as a hurricane? The usage in America is to continue to call such a storm a hurricane as long as the winds are above 74 mph. -- John F. Eldredge -- "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
... "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. I'm sure that everybody who experienced it, even on the fringes, would agree with you. -- Joy Lovely river gum Spreading by dry river bed Calls out to my soul. -- Australia Haiku by Joy Gaylord |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
On 10/29/2013 2:39 PM, Joy wrote:
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. I'm sure that everybody who experienced it, even on the fringes, would agree with you. I have to wonder about eople who snicker at 75-80MPH winds. Trust me, you don't want to be outside (much less on a beach) when the wind is blowing that hard. Perhaps a better term would be gale force wind. I wouldn't be outside in that, either. Jill ---who lives in a U.S. hurricane area |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/29/2013 2:39 PM, Joy wrote: "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. I'm sure that everybody who experienced it, even on the fringes, would agree with you. I have to wonder about eople who snicker at 75-80MPH winds. Trust me, you don't want to be outside (much less on a beach) when the wind is blowing that hard. Perhaps a better term would be gale force wind. I wouldn't be outside in that, either. It was not a gale force wind (google for Beaufort Scale of wind speeds) It was a ** expletive hurricane ( unless there is a difference between hurricane force winds and a hurricane.} Whatever, some Brits have died in this "not a hurricane" Tweed |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
jmcquown wrote: I have to wonder about eople who snicker at 75-80MPH winds. Trust me, you don't want to be outside (much less on a beach) when the wind is blowing that hard. Perhaps a better term would be gale force wind. I wouldn't be outside in that, either. Jill ---who lives in a U.S. hurricane area CBS News last night showed a segment from Brussels where people were actually being knocked over by the high winds! (That's a pretty bad storm, what does it matter what you call it?) |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
"jmcquown" wrote in message
... On 10/29/2013 2:39 PM, Joy wrote: "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. I'm sure that everybody who experienced it, even on the fringes, would agree with you. I have to wonder about eople who snicker at 75-80MPH winds. Trust me, you don't want to be outside (much less on a beach) when the wind is blowing that hard. Perhaps a better term would be gale force wind. I wouldn't be outside in that, either. Jill ---who lives in a U.S. hurricane area I agree. I've never experienced wind that strong, and hope I never do. I live in Southern California, where our Santa Ana winds sometimes get up to 50 MPH. That's more than enough wind for me, thank you. Aside from everything else, wind exacerbates my allergies, and, more important, the cats hate it. Joy |
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There was no hurricane in the UK
On 10/29/2013 4:02 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/29/2013 2:39 PM, Joy wrote: "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message ... From the BBC so it must be the truth BBC weather forecaster Michael Fish was left famously red-faced when, on the eve of the Great Storm of 1987, he assured the British public there would be no "hurricane". Though he failed to predict a ferocious storm was about to turn north and hit the UK, he was correct on the hurricane point. Britain cannot experience hurricanes - the word is used for tropical cyclones when they form in the Atlantic and north-east Pacific. These are low pressure systems which develop over tropical or sub-tropical waters - not the cold waters around Britain - which become "cyclones" once wind speeds reach 74mph (119km/h). If a hurricane did head for Britain it would be reclassified as an "extra tropical storm" before arriving. Such storms can be powerful - but even if the winds exceeded 74mph it would not be called a hurricane. In any case the storm currently expected to hit the UK is no such thing. Far from forming over warm waters, it is expected to form close to the coast before hitting the South West and heading across the country. The Beaufort scale classifies 74 mph+ wind speeds as "hurricane force" so as far as I am concerned we had a hurricane. I'm sure that everybody who experienced it, even on the fringes, would agree with you. I have to wonder about eople who snicker at 75-80MPH winds. Trust me, you don't want to be outside (much less on a beach) when the wind is blowing that hard. Perhaps a better term would be gale force wind. I wouldn't be outside in that, either. It was not a gale force wind (google for Beaufort Scale of wind speeds) It was a ** expletive hurricane ( unless there is a difference between hurricane force winds and a hurricane.} Whatever, some Brits have died in this "not a hurricane" Tweed Why are you being so contrary? I was agreeing with you. Gale force is quite high winds. We have a different scale in the US for hurricanes. But windspeed is windspeed. 80MPH isn't anything to snicker about. Jill |
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