free feeding VS fixed feeding

"Phil P." wrote in message news:
Not exactly Mr. Scrooge McDuck.

Yeah.. like your deadly delusion about how adult cats can't become infected
with FeLV?

I never said that. That vet did. And I accepted that adults cats might
become infected and that could be due to inbreeding.

Or your infamous delusion about dissolving calcium oxalate
uroliths in cats with water?

You will get there. I really admire you for trying. Most people *hate*
chemistry.

Vet Med Small Anim Clin. 1970. 65(5):461-8.
Clinical report on 46 cases of feline urological syndrome
Osbaldiston GW, Taussig RA.

Thanks. I´ll give it a look.

My information saves cats' lives - yours will kill them.

Never happened. Actually, I´ve saved a few myself.

Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.

Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.

Amy wrote:

I've recently switched my cats from free to fixed feeding. They really
don't like it and I'm tempted to switch them back. Is fixed feeding really
all that beneficial?

We recently switched to fixed feeding as well in an effort to help the new cat
we adopted last summer lose weight. She was an emaciated stray who needed to
gain weight, but she just kept eating until she is about a pound and a half
overweight. We were afraid she would just keep eating if we left food out.
Unfortunately the fixed feeding routine so far has meant that the one that has
always been slim is the only one losing weight, and now she's too thin. The
other two now beg for food all the time, and will snarf up everything in their
bowls. And they walk around acting hungry all the time, but they haven't lost
weight yet. I almost wonder if they are consuming more now because they are
worried they won't get enough. We keep cutting back the quantities a little
each week but they still aren't losing weight.

Amy wrote:

I've recently switched my cats from free to fixed feeding. They really
don't like it and I'm tempted to switch them back. Is fixed feeding really
all that beneficial?

We recently switched to fixed feeding as well in an effort to help the new cat
we adopted last summer lose weight. She was an emaciated stray who needed to
gain weight, but she just kept eating until she is about a pound and a half
overweight. We were afraid she would just keep eating if we left food out.
Unfortunately the fixed feeding routine so far has meant that the one that has
always been slim is the only one losing weight, and now she's too thin. The
other two now beg for food all the time, and will snarf up everything in their
bowls. And they walk around acting hungry all the time, but they haven't lost
weight yet. I almost wonder if they are consuming more now because they are
worried they won't get enough. We keep cutting back the quantities a little
each week but they still aren't losing weight.

In article , c864320
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.


If they *couldn't* get it, why would the vaccine be available for adult
animals? Why would they give boosters?? Common sense says if a cat needs
a booster, it can get the disease. (IOW, I think that vet wasn't
thinking too clearly *LOL*)
Of course, it could be that whole conspiracy to make money thing. *heh*

http://www.isabellevets.co.uk/health...fo/vacccat.htm
How to vaccinate with Nobivac FeLV against leukaemia virus

A primary injection.

A second injection three weeks later.

Immunisation is achieved one to two weeks after the second vaccination

An annual booster vaccination is recommended.

In the kitten we start vaccination at 9 weeks of age.

Any age of adult cat can be vaccinated.

Nobivac Tricat and Nobicat FeLV vaccines can be given at the same time.

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~kaeli~
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In article , c864320
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.


If they *couldn't* get it, why would the vaccine be available for adult
animals? Why would they give boosters?? Common sense says if a cat needs
a booster, it can get the disease. (IOW, I think that vet wasn't
thinking too clearly *LOL*)
Of course, it could be that whole conspiracy to make money thing. *heh*

http://www.isabellevets.co.uk/health...fo/vacccat.htm
How to vaccinate with Nobivac FeLV against leukaemia virus

A primary injection.

A second injection three weeks later.

Immunisation is achieved one to two weeks after the second vaccination

An annual booster vaccination is recommended.

In the kitten we start vaccination at 9 weeks of age.

Any age of adult cat can be vaccinated.

Nobivac Tricat and Nobicat FeLV vaccines can be given at the same time.

--
--
~kaeli~
With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

"kaeli" wrote in message
...
In article , c864320
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.


If they *couldn't* get it, why would the vaccine be available for adult
animals? Why would they give boosters?? Common sense says if a cat needs
a booster, it can get the disease. (IOW, I think that vet wasn't
thinking too clearly *LOL*)
--
~kaeli~


That was my reaction, too. On the advice of my vet, I discontinued the
vaccine a number of years ago -- but that was because she was exclusively an
indoor cat (and now that also includes Duffy). My vet has checked several
times since then to make sure that my cats do not come into contact with any
others. If they had contact with others, then he recommends the vaccine. I
have never heard anyone knowledgeable say that adult cats were somehow
immune.

MaryL

"kaeli" wrote in message
...
In article , c864320
@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
Oh, one more thing. Do you have any proof that adult cats actually
acquire FeLV? I don´t want lab experiments with vaccines. Would you
have something like cats that once tested negative (true negative) and
later developed the disease through natural exposure?

I´m trying to find the study that supports that vet´s statement that
adult cats don´t get FeLV but still haven´t managed.


If they *couldn't* get it, why would the vaccine be available for adult
animals? Why would they give boosters?? Common sense says if a cat needs
a booster, it can get the disease. (IOW, I think that vet wasn't
thinking too clearly *LOL*)
--
~kaeli~


That was my reaction, too. On the advice of my vet, I discontinued the
vaccine a number of years ago -- but that was because she was exclusively an
indoor cat (and now that also includes Duffy). My vet has checked several
times since then to make sure that my cats do not come into contact with any
others. If they had contact with others, then he recommends the vaccine. I
have never heard anyone knowledgeable say that adult cats were somehow
immune.

MaryL

"MaryL" AKE-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote:

That was my reaction, too. On the advice of my vet, I discontinued the
vaccine a number of years ago -- but that was because she was exclusively an
indoor cat (and now that also includes Duffy). My vet has checked several
times since then to make sure that my cats do not come into contact with any
others. If they had contact with others, then he recommends the vaccine. I
have never heard anyone knowledgeable say that adult cats were somehow
immune.

From what I could tell, the vet who made the claim based it on a study that
found that the majority of healthy adult cats will not develop FeLV when
exposed, but what if your cat turns out to be one of the some fifteen percent
or so that does develop FeLV after exposure?

It may be accurate to say that the majority of adult cats have a natural
immunity, but that's quite different than claiming that all adult cats are
immune.