How much is a cat's life worth?

The Raven

on Monday 03 April 2006 09:19 pm, Monique Y. Mudama blabbed incessantly
producing the following:


On 2006-04-04, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) penned:

I agree that "pet quality" cats should be neutered, but most people
who breed purebreds do not do it irresponsibly - the litters are
already "spoken for" before they are born. You're not really
suggesting that "thoroughbred" cats with their distinctive
characteristics should be eliminated as breeds, are you?

I don't think most purebreds are bred responsibly, but even if they
are, sure. If there were no breeders, I bet a lot of people who own
purebreds would "stoop" to getting a cat or kitten from the shelter
instead. Bingo, far fewer animals killed.

I can see some argument for dog breeds, but I just can't see it for
cats. We don't have guard cats, retriever cats, pointing cats and
herding cats. Cats are cats. They might look different, but honestly,
the variation isn't all that huge. I'm sorry, but that's how I see it.
I can't justify the amount of senseless cat deaths by pointing to all
these great breeds of cat. It just doesn't work for me.


Different breeds of cats have different traits though. I wouldn't mind
having a ragdoll that plays fetch, but I really want a Bengal. I already
have five cats (two of which are getting "altered" as I speak). I love my
"alley" cats, but I want a Bengal too!

I would dearly love to have a Sphinx, but there's no way I
could justify spending the money, when there are (as others
have pointed out) so many homeless "oridnary" cats.


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on Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:49 pm, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) blabbed
incessantly producing the following:

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Different breeds of cats have different traits though. I wouldn't mind
having a ragdoll that plays fetch, but I really want a Bengal. I already
have five cats (two of which are getting "altered" as I speak). I love
my "alley" cats, but I want a Bengal too!

I would dearly love to have a Sphinx, but there's no way I
could justify spending the money, when there are (as others
have pointed out) so many homeless "oridnary" cats.


Justify it to whom? I have five "ordinary" cats, and when I've saved the
money I'm getting a Bengal (Because they're so cool looking!) I feel no
responsibility for someone Else's irresponsibility. They won't spay/neuter
their cat so the "blame" for the homeless cats rests on their, not my
shoulders.
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The Raven

Dogs have owners, Cats have staff.

On 2006-04-05, The Raven penned:
on Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:49 pm, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
blabbed incessantly producing the following:

I would dearly love to have a Sphinx, but there's no way I could
justify spending the money, when there are (as others have pointed
out) so many homeless "oridnary" cats.

Justify it to whom? I have five "ordinary" cats, and when I've
saved the money I'm getting a Bengal (Because they're so cool
looking!) I feel no responsibility for someone Else's
irresponsibility. They won't spay/neuter their cat so the "blame"
for the homeless cats rests on their, not my shoulders.

It's not a matter of blame. The fact is, there are more cats out
there than there are people to take them. Therefore, some cats will
die. By buying from a breeder, you are encouraging the breeder to
continue breeding cats, resulting in yet more cats. Some of them will
get homes. Most of them won't, and will die for it.

I don't want to encourage the breeding of yet more cats, so I am happy
with a moggie (same for dogs and mutts).

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-04-05, The Raven penned:
on Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:49 pm, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
blabbed incessantly producing the following:

I would dearly love to have a Sphinx, but there's no way I could
justify spending the money, when there are (as others have pointed
out) so many homeless "oridnary" cats.

Justify it to whom? I have five "ordinary" cats, and when I've
saved the money I'm getting a Bengal (Because they're so cool
looking!) I feel no responsibility for someone Else's
irresponsibility. They won't spay/neuter their cat so the "blame"
for the homeless cats rests on their, not my shoulders.

It's not a matter of blame. The fact is, there are more cats out
there than there are people to take them. Therefore, some cats will
die. By buying from a breeder, you are encouraging the breeder to
continue breeding cats, resulting in yet more cats. Some of them will
get homes. Most of them won't, and will die for it.

I don't want to encourage the breeding of yet more cats, so I am happy
with a moggie (same for dogs and mutts).


Can I point out, without anyone taking it too badly that there is a lot of
diversity in this group. One of the things we have agreed to disagree on is
in vs out.

Another should be rescue vs purebred. Those that have and love purebred
cats (or dogs) shouldn't be made to feel they are somehow inferior persons
and must defend themselves. Same goes for responsible and caring breeders.

Jo

On 2006-04-05, Jo Firey penned:

Can I point out, without anyone taking it too badly that there is a
lot of diversity in this group. One of the things we have agreed to
disagree on is in vs out.

Another should be rescue vs purebred. Those that have and love
purebred cats (or dogs) shouldn't be made to feel they are somehow
inferior persons and must defend themselves. Same goes for
responsible and caring breeders.

Yeah -- I apologize. You're right. And as others have pointed out,
the cat overpopulation issue is also particular to certain regions. I
like this group because overall it's easy going and tolerant, and I
don't want to screw that up.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2006-04-05, Jo Firey penned:

Can I point out, without anyone taking it too badly that there is a
lot of diversity in this group. One of the things we have agreed to
disagree on is in vs out.

Another should be rescue vs purebred. Those that have and love
purebred cats (or dogs) shouldn't be made to feel they are somehow
inferior persons and must defend themselves. Same goes for
responsible and caring breeders.

Yeah -- I apologize. You're right. And as others have pointed out,
the cat overpopulation issue is also particular to certain regions. I
like this group because overall it's easy going and tolerant, and I
don't want to screw that up.

I remember a story from last year from the Channel Islands, they had to
import rescued cats because there weren't enough localy to meet demand.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
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"badwilson" wrote in message


I don't get it either. If we can take our cat from Thailand to Australia,
which is costing us around $5000 when you include everything associated with
it and with us being able to do it, and is delaying our arrival in Australia
by 6 months, then anyone who would abandon their cats because of a lesser
move is just making sorry excuses!///

LOL, somehow I relate! ;o) I don't cut people a lot of slack when they
tell me they can't take their pets with them when they move!

Helen M


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Helen Miles wrote:

LOL, somehow I relate! ;o) I don't cut people a lot of slack when they
tell me they can't take their pets with them when they move!

That's how I ended up with Cocoa :-))))

Deb.
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"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would;
He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

on Wednesday 05 April 2006 01:16 pm, Jo Firey blabbed incessantly producing
the following:


"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-04-05, The Raven penned:
on Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:49 pm, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
blabbed incessantly producing the following:

I would dearly love to have a Sphinx, but there's no way I could
justify spending the money, when there are (as others have pointed
out) so many homeless "oridnary" cats.

Justify it to whom? I have five "ordinary" cats, and when I've
saved the money I'm getting a Bengal (Because they're so cool
looking!) I feel no responsibility for someone Else's
irresponsibility. They won't spay/neuter their cat so the "blame"
for the homeless cats rests on their, not my shoulders.

It's not a matter of blame. The fact is, there are more cats out
there than there are people to take them. Therefore, some cats will
die. By buying from a breeder, you are encouraging the breeder to
continue breeding cats, resulting in yet more cats. Some of them will
get homes. Most of them won't, and will die for it.

I don't want to encourage the breeding of yet more cats, so I am happy
with a moggie (same for dogs and mutts).


Can I point out, without anyone taking it too badly that there is a lot of
diversity in this group. One of the things we have agreed to disagree on
is in vs out.

Another should be rescue vs purebred. Those that have and love purebred
cats (or dogs) shouldn't be made to feel they are somehow inferior persons
and must defend themselves. Same goes for responsible and caring
breeders.

Jo
I concur.
--
The Raven

Dogs have owners, Cats have staff.