I Could Use Some Purrs, Please - OT

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Aug 19, 1:21 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
"outsider" wrote in message

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"CatNipped" wrote in
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Hopitus and MaryL, you were very correct (and what about the *THREE*
doctors I saw, before this one, who said they couldn't help me??!!)
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Hugs,

CatNipped

This is so disturbing. Logically there are only two conclusions about
the
first doctors. Either they just did not even know there was really
something going on or they think it is acceptable to say "it can't be
fixed" when they should say "I can't fix this"

That's *exactly* what my friend, a nurse, said. She thinks that most
doctors are so arrogant that they won't admit that there is just
something
they're not qualified to do!



Either way is bad.

Of course the news itself is wonderful. I can only imagine how
horrendous
constant pain must be. I look forward to hearing good news in the near
future.

Thanks!

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped

Your pal the nurse is right. Has Dan talked about looking for a female
doc for her? Both my fibro friends (boy would they be mad is they saw
that!) have more than one doc...all men.

A female doc might work, but sometimes, having to be (smarter, bigger,
faster, stronger, etc). in a (still mostly) masculine field, in order to
compete, can cause females to be just as bad as males! I've found that the
best thing for me is to research my own problems then find a doctor who I
can *tell* what's wrong with me and prescribe what I ask him to.
Unfortunately, since I don't have a medical education, that only works as
far as my ability to do research - IOW it doesn't always work!

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped

Aside to Andy: men are bigger than women in general and that's why
docs as well as most other people listen more carefully to
them.....IMHO.

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Aug 19, 2:10 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
"hopitus" wrote in message

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On Aug 19, 1:21 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
"outsider" wrote in message

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"CatNipped" wrote in
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Hopitus and MaryL, you were very correct (and what about the
*THREE*
doctors I saw, before this one, who said they couldn't help me??!!)
.
.
.
.
Hugs,

CatNipped

This is so disturbing. Logically there are only two conclusions
about
the
first doctors. Either they just did not even know there was really
something going on or they think it is acceptable to say "it can't
be
fixed" when they should say "I can't fix this"

That's *exactly* what my friend, a nurse, said. She thinks that most
doctors are so arrogant that they won't admit that there is just
something
they're not qualified to do!

Either way is bad.

Of course the news itself is wonderful. I can only imagine how
horrendous
constant pain must be. I look forward to hearing good news in the
near
future.

Thanks!

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped

Your pal the nurse is right. Has Dan talked about looking for a female
doc for her? Both my fibro friends (boy would they be mad is they saw
that!) have more than one doc...all men.

A female doc might work, but sometimes, having to be (smarter, bigger,
faster, stronger, etc). in a (still mostly) masculine field, in order to
compete, can cause females to be just as bad as males! I've found that
the
best thing for me is to research my own problems then find a doctor who I
can *tell* what's wrong with me and prescribe what I ask him to.
Unfortunately, since I don't have a medical education, that only works as
far as my ability to do research - IOW it doesn't always work!

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped

Aside to Andy: men are bigger than women in general and that's why
docs as well as most other people listen more carefully to
them.....IMHO.

Re your first sentence...I have doc friends - not many, and they are
almost
all ER-types, not surgeons, but most of them are women and they have
told
me over the years that most of what you speak of in this sentence -
smarter,
bigger, faster, stronger,etc.- all goes down and finishes in medical
school
as well as residency (which I was able to observe in many "teaching"
hospitals
where I worked, not even being interested for the most part, LOL). It
boils down
to survival of the fittest, just like in nature....I had a friend who
was a chemist
who shared classes with many pre-med students; he delighted in
relating to me
that many mornings coming into class his "projects" or "experiments" -
whatever
they were assigned - were among a pitiful few still proudly intact and
complete for
forensic scrutiny while his pre-med companions efficiently sabotaged
each others'
spectacular efforts, LOL.
Women do have it rougher than male docs in RL though, and all nurses
know this.
Most women end up post med-school taking residencies in pediatrics or
dermatology
or psychiatry or radiology; that's where you will see the female docs,
They don't flock
to "gyno-obstetrics" ditto males, because of the heavy-duty lawsuits
vulnerability in
that specialty...imagine the court atmosphere....plaintiff wins
mostly, big bucks
settlements.
i hope DesMoines has some female fibro specialists.

Here is my fave medical joke - not involving politics nor much
religion:
What is the difference between God and a surgeon?
God never claimed to be a surgeon.

LOL! My favorite lawyer joke... What's the difference between a rooster
and a lawyer? A rooster clucks defiance! (Sound it out!!) ;

Nose Kisses,

CatNipped

hopitus wrote in
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CatNipped

Your pal the nurse is right. Has Dan talked about looking for a female
doc for her? Both my fibro friends (boy would they be mad is they saw
that!) have more than one doc...all men.
Aside to Andy: men are bigger than women in general and that's why
docs as well as most other people listen more carefully to
them.....IMHO.

This may be true but it is only a slightly better excuse than plain old
sexism. Docs need to better at listening and better at admitting their own
limits. My gp can be a pain but he does not seem to think he knows
everything. The funny thing is he is very smart as doctors go; that is not
one of his weak points. I am starting to learn to appreciate his good and
bad points.

MESSAGE TO NANCY

Nancy my dear, who has the same ring, this is Gramby who is older than you.
You must listen, GET ANOTHER DOCTOR. While you are going untreated, a
condition could worsen. Please listen to Dan.
"Daniel Mahoney" wrote in message
news
He about go in trouble once because the Doctor said "Son, the pain is not
in
your leg, it is in your hear." Mike told him that if he were his "son"
he
would know to believe him when it said it hurt. He then added what he
thought the problem was and it wasn't complimentary to the Doctor.

That's the issue Nancy is having. She goes to the same GP I have. He
FINALLY ordered thyroid and sed rate tests for her the last time she saw
him. When she told him she thought she might have fibromyalgia and she
knows that she has arthritis (the arthritis was diagnosed and treated by
her last 2 doctors in CA) he basically grabbed hold of her shoulders and
twisted a little, and when she didn't flinch he said "Nope, you're fine".
That is just so completely wrong! So now I'm urging her every time she'll
listen to find a different doctor. This one keeps telling her it's all in
her head, when it's quite obviously not.

Sammy and Ranger are both fairly lightweight cats. When they walk on me
while I'm in bed I can feel them but it's a very light pressure. When they
walk on Nancy it hurts her. If she's on her side and one of them steps on
her hip, it hurts her a lot. That is NOT NORMAL. So I'm pressuring her
pretty constantly to try another doctor, and keep trying doctors until
she'll find one that will actually listen to her and help her find out
what's wrong and how to fix it.

Dan

Purrs and prayers that you can get the procedure
done quickly and with the least inconvenience.

Lily & her mama

"CatNipped" wrote in message
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Hopitus and MaryL, you were very correct (and what about the *THREE*
doctors I saw, before this one, who said they couldn't help me??!!). He
said that he definitely sees the bone overgrowth on the C3 and C4
vertebrae and also part of the disk that was injured in the fall that
broke my wrist, both pressing down on the nerve. And it can easily be
removed (he said if you *have* to have a problem in the cervical area of
the spine, this is the one to have).

He'll go in from the front, just as you both described. He does it as an
out-patient surgery with no hospital stay needed. Recovery time is about
2 days but I can't drive for 2 weeks so I'll get a small (unpaid) vacation
from work. I'm going this Wednesday for another MRI (the one he looked at
was from October of last year and the pain has gotten *significantly*
worse since then), and then he'll be able to do the surgery within the
month!!!

I was so relieved and happy that I cried all the way home from the
doctor's office. As I said, *THREE* other doctors (two orthopedists and
another neurosurgeon) looked at those same films and said there was
nothing that could be done for me - one wanted me to go to a psychiatrist
as if the pain in my neck was all in my head - it was *SO* good to be
validated and told that there was a physical reason for the pain, it was
real, and it could be fixed!

So thank you all so much for the purrs, they certainly worked again!

Hugs,

CatNipped


"CatNipped" wrote in message
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I'm going to see the neurosurgeon today to see if he can do something
about the pinched nerve in my neck. He's pretty much my last hope of
getting free of this pain - and avoiding the gradual loss of the use of
my right hand and arm. If he can do a "foraminotomy", arthoscopically,
with minimal recovery time (and do it before the end of the year before
my $1,500 deductible is back again), I would be *SO* happy.

So, if you would please, I could use some purrs that the visit this
afternoon turns out well and that he'll be able to help me.

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped




--
Irulan
from the stars we come
to the stars we return
from now until the end of time.

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Aug 19, 4:17 pm, outsider wrote:
hopitus wrote
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CatNipped

Your pal the nurse is right. Has Dan talked about looking for a female
doc for her? Both my fibro friends (boy would they be mad is they saw
that!) have more than one doc...all men.
Aside to Andy: men are bigger than women in general and that's why
docs as well as most other people listen more carefully to
them.....IMHO.

This may be true but it is only a slightly better excuse than plain old
sexism. Docs need to better at listening and better at admitting their
own
limits. My gp can be a pain but he does not seem to think he knows
everything. The funny thing is he is very smart as doctors go; that is
not
one of his weak points. I am starting to learn to appreciate his good
and
bad points.

I am convinced in medical school as well as their professional
societies (my
"profession" has societies, too...so do nurses) docs are reminded and
"pimped" (pardon the expression: "pumped up" might be more PC) to
remember that they are the final consultant/word on medical matters
the
"layman" (us) come to them concerning, and not to take any lip from
anyone less than an M.D. The M.D.'s even formerly "looked down" on
docs with a "D.O." (doctor of osteopathy) degree although working
side-by-side with same, doing precisely the same thing. I hope this
'tude has changed, believe it has, somewhat. You all just have and
need docs, you haven't spent many years carrying out their orders at
work. This is funny..I have worked with/for docs who are terrible
people
personality-wise but I would trust my life to their judgement;
likewise,
have worked with/for those who are the greatest people you would ever
want as friends or personalities...but I wouldn't trust any of my
cat's
lives to them (obscu they are not vets, LOL) but you get the drift,
and that's the truth. I chose one of the nastiest surgeons I knew
(gyno)
for my biggest surgery to date. Note: did not "choose" the one who
put in my arterial stents...under circumstances, you are kinda
"hauled"
to that kind....but the gyno surgeon/doc was older, up-to-date keeping
kinda man, and very cautious and smart. I didn't like him but I
trusted
my life to his hands/brain...so please take my word for it,
personality
ain't the whole ballgame....with this species, anyway.

Isn't that the truth - I think I might be a bit distrustful of a surgeon
with a good bedside manner! ;

Nose Kisses,

CatNipped

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CN, I tried replying from work earlier in the week but our news server is
still b0rken there (for 3 weeks now) and the post never showed up. I'm
happy for you that you found a doc that is able to take the pain away from
you, but seeing that we're in a cat newsgroup the subject line seemed a
bit,
um, open for interpretation. Five cringed a bit too at the word "fix"

Good luck and purrs for a swift recovery and a pain-free life of servitude
to your furry ones!
--
mers
Craig, Kathi & "Cat Five" the tabby girl
"One way that you can tell that 'Mythbusters' has been in the area
is to look for shrapnel in the trees." - Jamie Hyneman

ROTFLMAO! Oh, I got that kind of fixed about 17 years ago! ;

Nose Kisses,

CatNipped

On Aug 18, 6:13*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:


He'll go in from the front, just as you both described. *He does it as an
out-patient surgery with no hospital stay needed. *Recovery time is about 2
days but I can't drive for 2 weeks so I'll get a small (unpaid) vacation
from work. *I'm going this Wednesday for another MRI (the one he looked at
was from October of last year and the pain has gotten *significantly* worse
since then), and then he'll be able to do the surgery within the month!!!

I was so relieved and happy that I cried all the way home from the doctor's
office. *As I said, *THREE* other doctors (two orthopedists and another
neurosurgeon) looked at those same films and said there was nothing that
could be done for me - one wanted me to go to a psychiatrist as if the pain
in my neck was all in my head - it was *SO* good to be validated and told
that there was a physical reason for the pain, it was real, and it could be
fixed!

So thank you all so much for the purrs, they certainly worked again!

Hugs,

CatNipped

I'm so happy for you, CatNipped. You deserve to feel better. How
else can you take the proper care of your masters and mistresses? I'm
teasing of course. I'm just so happy that you'll be doing better.

I don't write as often as I should, but I so enjoy reading what
everyone has to say.

I've got the purrs and prayers, offerings and songs going for you. In
massive amounts.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

"Smokie Darling (Annie)" wrote in message
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On Aug 18, 6:13 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:


He'll go in from the front, just as you both described. He does it as an
out-patient surgery with no hospital stay needed. Recovery time is about 2
days but I can't drive for 2 weeks so I'll get a small (unpaid) vacation
from work. I'm going this Wednesday for another MRI (the one he looked at
was from October of last year and the pain has gotten *significantly*
worse
since then), and then he'll be able to do the surgery within the month!!!

I was so relieved and happy that I cried all the way home from the
doctor's
office. As I said, *THREE* other doctors (two orthopedists and another
neurosurgeon) looked at those same films and said there was nothing that
could be done for me - one wanted me to go to a psychiatrist as if the
pain
in my neck was all in my head - it was *SO* good to be validated and told
that there was a physical reason for the pain, it was real, and it could
be
fixed!

So thank you all so much for the purrs, they certainly worked again!

Hugs,

CatNipped

I'm so happy for you, CatNipped. You deserve to feel better. How
else can you take the proper care of your masters and mistresses? I'm
teasing of course. I'm just so happy that you'll be doing better.

I don't write as often as I should, but I so enjoy reading what
everyone has to say.

I've got the purrs and prayers, offerings and songs going for you. In
massive amounts.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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You don't have to tell *me* why you don't write often, it *hurts* - of
course, with FMS *everything* hurts! Just take care of yourself, I'll
let you guys know how it went. I've been hearing reading conflicting
reports - some people say the neck, shoulder and arm pain are gone
immediately; some people say that the nerve gets inflamed from the surgery
and it takes a while to heal. Either way, as long as the end result is less
pain, I'll be happy! ;

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped

CatNipped wrote:
I'm going to see the neurosurgeon today to see if he can do something about
the pinched nerve in my neck. He's pretty much my last hope of getting free
of this pain - and avoiding the gradual loss of the use of my right hand and
arm. If he can do a "foraminotomy", arthoscopically, with minimal recovery
time (and do it before the end of the year before my $1,500 deductible is
back again), I would be *SO* happy.

So, if you would please, I could use some purrs that the visit this
afternoon turns out well and that he'll be able to help me.

Chin Skritches,

CatNipped


Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek