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Old April 11th 06, 09:56 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Singh wrote:

Credit is fully yours, because you deserve the credit for something like this. Hell, you
deserve the credit for a piece that's yours, period. Anyway, I am a writer myself. I
would raise holy hell if someone tried to hose one of my pieces for his own little pool
of spotlight. I'm not going to send my karma to the can by doing such a thing to you! I
only thought of submitting the piece to the Ten Lives newsletter because they print such
short bits, and they put a premium on placing adult cats like Sherman. So many of the
stories--like so many cats in other shelters, unfortunately--end with the final needle;
they give one cause to think and cause to cry. I love yours. Sherman came out the hero;
oh, and the yellow-furred one's the hero too. I'm just thinking of the cats. But I give
you my word that my name will not appear anywhere near your work! This is your baby. If
someone ever makes Sherman dolls, I want them to say it was inspired by Pam, and Liz
Bahadur Kaur will be very happy to give you a thumbs-up from behind the curtain.

Blessed be,
Baha


Girlfriend, I know that you wouldn't steal credit for others' work.
I've just had it happen before but not by anyone in here, that I know of.

Pam S. glad if any of her work finds homes for the furry owners
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Old April 11th 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Singh" wrote in message
...
Maybe the writing teacher will provide some valuable assistance in
copyrighting
your piece. I know how you feel. I wouldn't want some hoser making a
plagiarizing buck off my work. I understand it's not terrifically
expensive to
file the papers. You can probably find it on the web, says the
computer-illiterate!

Blessed be,
Baha



Actually, she would already have a copyright. An essay, photograph, etc.
automatically has a copyright as soon as it is created. You are probably
referring to *registering* the copyright. That does provide additional
protection, but many people do not realize that the right of ownership to
one's work is automatic under U.S. law. Here is one source that you may
find helpful:
http://www.whatiscopyright.org/

Incidentally, many people assume that anything that appears on the Internet
is "fair game" that can be freely copied and distributed. That is *not*
correct. I will occasionally quote from various sources, but I always keep
the quotation brief and give credit to the original.

MaryL


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Old April 11th 06, 10:33 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Tanada" wrote in message
nk.net...
MaryL wrote:

"Tanada" wrote in message
nk.net...

Christine Burel wrote:


Hey, Pam,
With your permission could I send this on to the contact person I have
at
the local animal humane association and see if they're interested in
using
it --they're having an adoptathon in the near future.
Christine


Like I told Baha and Jane, I don't mind so long as due credit is given.
I'll let you use the same poem "Abandoned" under the same terms. If
either gets one or more cats adopted, I'll have considered it as paying
for this year at school.

Pam S.



Hey, that's a great idea. With your permission (and correct attribution,
of course), I would like to send this to members of our local Alley Cats
Allies. Is that alright?

Thanks,
MaryL


No problem, Christine and MaryL. I posted the poem in this thread as well
and you have my permission to use it as well, under the same conditions.

Pam S.


Thank you! I greatly appreciate that, but I decided not to accept your
generosity because I am afraid that sending to a group would almost be an
open invitation for your name to get lost somewhere in the process. I
receive many messages where someone dropped the name of the author. I would
like to see some of your other endeavors, though.

MaryL


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Old April 12th 06, 01:07 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:45:03 GMT, Tanada wrote:

CATherine wrote:


I noticed that. And how he blustered when he said he didn't care
anyway, after being abandoned. It just tore me up and I wanted to hug
him and take him home myself.

You mentioned the story 'Abandoned' you wrote. Could you send that to
me? I don't recall seeing it before. TIA.

Hugs and Purrs,

--


Abandoned was the first posm that i wrote for creative writing. I'm
rather fond of it, because it was based on a picture taken of Pine Cone
the weekend that he adopted us at Morrow Mountain State Park (a lovely
place BTW)


Abandoned

One day comfortable, nesting
With his family. Next
Tossed out into the wild and
Trashed beside the road
Dumped to fend for himself
Pleading for food and salvation
Turned away
Reported as vagrant
Never quite losing hope
For a family to love him
Eyes wide, he dodges
Traffic, snakes, dogs
And he is just little
A babe, without arms
To hold him
Hiding among garbage cans
A food source, safety of sorts
Woebegone, staring
Lonely, starving, unwanted
Unloved, undaunted
Maybe someone
Will give a kitten a home.


Awww! Pine Cone was/is so lucky you were camping out that day. And now
look at him. Captain of his own ship with a houseful of slaves and the
subject of a poem.

Thanks for sending the poem. You are such a talented writer. I just
read Sherman's story again, and bawled some more. That is the most
moving thing I have ever read. Kep it up. You have a gift. Hugs,

--
CATherine
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Old April 12th 06, 04:05 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Tanada wrote:

I'm not worried about getting into the school magazine. I have written
plenty of stuff they can use. My understanding on Copy Right is that it
cannot be published without my permission, usually in writing. Evelyn,
I think, is a writer's agent or editor or something literary like that.
I'd have to ask the pros about it. We don't get into publishing and
finding an agent etc. until the end of the month or so. OK, I know
there are some professionals here even with the absence of the much
missed Dave Yehuddah. Any one care to enlighten all of us who are
inexperienced at this sort of thing?


I know this from a translator's point of view, but AFAIK, copyright laws
are the same everywhere, i.e. if you wrote it, you own the copyright. No
further measures required. This applies to all artistic products.

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
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Old April 12th 06, 03:59 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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I've heard that the "poor man's" copyright here in the US is to mail your
article to yourself (and keep it unopened, of course, unless there is a
court case in which you need to prove the date written).

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/


"Marina" wrote in message
...
Tanada wrote:

I'm not worried about getting into the school magazine. I have written
plenty of stuff they can use. My understanding on Copy Right is that it
cannot be published without my permission, usually in writing. Evelyn, I
think, is a writer's agent or editor or something literary like that. I'd
have to ask the pros about it. We don't get into publishing and finding
an agent etc. until the end of the month or so. OK, I know there are
some professionals here even with the absence of the much missed Dave
Yehuddah. Any one care to enlighten all of us who are inexperienced at
this sort of thing?


I know this from a translator's point of view, but AFAIK, copyright laws
are the same everywhere, i.e. if you wrote it, you own the copyright. No
further measures required. This applies to all artistic products.

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
marina (dot) kurten (at) iki (dot) fi
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki



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Old April 12th 06, 05:49 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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In article et,
Tanada wrote:

Singh wrote:

If I forward this to Ten Lives, would this mess up your chance of the story
getting printed in the journal? I don't want to screw it up for you.

Thank you also for saying it's okay. I'd love to see this little story help
Ten Lives get their kitties into good homes. They do such good work for the
cats, treat them like gold, and don't believe in wholesale euthanasia; even
the FIV cats are kept in a special home of their own, and not PTS unless and
until the disease has gotten to the point where human measures of care and
comfort can no longer be performed humanely.

Dumb question from the author-in-training: does owning the copyright mean,
by the law, the owner's name must appear with the the work? As in, "The
story of Joe Blow by Joe Blow, copyright 2006 by Joe Blow"?

Blessed be,
Baha



I'm not worried about getting into the school magazine. I have written
plenty of stuff they can use. My understanding on Copy Right is that it
cannot be published without my permission, usually in writing. Evelyn,
I think, is a writer's agent or editor or something literary like that.
I'd have to ask the pros about it. We don't get into publishing and
finding an agent etc. until the end of the month or so. OK, I know
there are some professionals here even with the absence of the much
missed Dave Yehuddah. Any one care to enlighten all of us who are
inexperienced at this sort of thing?

Pam S.



There is an assumption of copyright simply by writing something, but
the basic protection is to put the following words on every copy:

Copyright year, your name. All Rights Reserved.

If you can use the c-in-a-circle rather than the word "copyright", some
lawyers prefer it. Some even like the symbol and the word.

"All Rights Reserved" may not strictly be needed, but I always use it.
As explained to me, the laws of some South American countries required
it.

Once you have a common law copyright, the proof of right-to-use is on
the person that wants to use it. The presumption is that the owner has
copyright. Just for those reasons, I have to sign a contract that I am
producing a "work for hire", where copyright goes to the organization
paying me, when I'm writing paid articles.

You can get a little more protection by registering the copyright with
(in the US) the Copyright Office at the Library of Congress. The rules
may have changed, but, in general, you send a form, a small fee, and
two copies of the work. The Library of Congress has first pick on
whether to retain the work, but only 20% or less actually goes into the
Library.

Remember that all these protections may take legal action to enforce.
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Old April 12th 06, 05:51 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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In article , CatNipped
wrote:

I've heard that the "poor man's" copyright here in the US is to mail your
article to yourself (and keep it unopened, of course, unless there is a
court case in which you need to prove the date written).



That really doesn't prove anything. For patent law, which is more
stringent, you typically keep notes in a bound notebook and have
periodic witnessing, and signed witness statements of breakthroughs.
This, and the urban legend about mail, is more relevant to patent than
copyright law, because patents protect ideas while copyrights protect
specific words (or images, etc.).

In other words, copyright infringement requires using the exact words,
and it's unlikely two people produced the same words at the same time.
Yes, this is sometimes litigated, or that one work inspired another, in
commercial entertainment. If you aren't Madonna, it's probably not a
real concern.
 




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