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random urination update
Hi folks - a few weeks ago, I wrote for some help with Skipjack, who uses his
box but uses other places as well. His first visit to the vet showed no UTI. Neither did a visit to a different vet. We tried to go to my preferred vet, but she's an hour away. On the day we had the appointment, Skip made it clear that he was not at all happy with this car thing and one or both of us would not have made it alive during rush hour with that drive! So we made an appointment with another vet, very close by. Skip had more bloodwork and urinalysis and culture done, as well as an ultrasound (a little overkill, but what the heck). Anyway, although there are some crystals in his urine, there is not infection. I left him at the vet last Wednesday, so his bladder could fill and they could do the tests. Well, since we've been home, he hasn't had a problem. I started using some citrus room spray on the sofa cushions he commonly (recently at least) has urinated on, and he hasn't eliminated on them again (no problem being on my lap on same cushions). Knock on wood, does he seem to get it? The vet recommended putting him on Elavil, but I'm not sure I want to drug a cat if I can treat it otherwise. He also recommended CDS or IVD Control food. I've never been a Hill's fan, although years ago, I did have my male cat on CD. Any other food recommendations? He's eating Solid Gold, which seems to give him less gas and stink than any other food. He eats small amounts of Sheba or Fancy Feast (which I give in larger amounts to my sick kitty to get her to eat), but prefers his dry food. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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in article , J1Boss at
wrote on 7/7/03 3:40 PM: Hi folks - a few weeks ago, I wrote for some help with Skipjack, who uses his box but uses other places as well. His first visit to the vet showed no UTI. Neither did a visit to a different vet. We tried to go to my preferred vet, but she's an hour away. On the day we had the appointment, Skip made it clear that he was not at all happy with this car thing and one or both of us would not have made it alive during rush hour with that drive! So we made an appointment with another vet, very close by. Skip had more bloodwork and urinalysis and culture done, as well as an ultrasound (a little overkill, but what the heck). Anyway, although there are some crystals in his urine, there is not infection. I left him at the vet last Wednesday, so his bladder could fill and they could do the tests. Well, since we've been home, he hasn't had a problem. I started using some citrus room spray on the sofa cushions he commonly (recently at least) has urinated on, and he hasn't eliminated on them again (no problem being on my lap on same cushions). Knock on wood, does he seem to get it? The vet recommended putting him on Elavil, but I'm not sure I want to drug a cat if I can treat it otherwise. He also recommended CDS or IVD Control food. I've never been a Hill's fan, although years ago, I did have my male cat on CD. Any other food recommendations? He's eating Solid Gold, which seems to give him less gas and stink than any other food. He eats small amounts of Sheba or Fancy Feast (which I give in larger amounts to my sick kitty to get her to eat), but prefers his dry food. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen |
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I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen I agree that I don't want to use drugs. I have used Feliway spray, but not consistently. Not sure exactly where I should be spraying it at this point, or whether a diffuser would be optimal. And where to locate the diffuser(s). 2 level house, fairly open floorplan. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen I agree that I don't want to use drugs. I have used Feliway spray, but not consistently. Not sure exactly where I should be spraying it at this point, or whether a diffuser would be optimal. And where to locate the diffuser(s). 2 level house, fairly open floorplan. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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I nearly missed this thread in my quest for information on Feliway.
Your cat's problem sounds a bit like mine was. Has anything traumatic (in his terms) happened before he began? The first time we had moved house temporarily whilst some major renovation work was done - he peed on the spare bed a couple of times. When we moved back he stopped. Later he got "lost" for 24 hours - he was only about 200 yards away but he has no sense of direction! He was upset by the whole affaire particularly as he had picked up some sheep ticks. He was ok to begin with but then we went on holiday and my parents came to cat sit (as usual). It was also summer, the patio window was always open and other cats do pass through the garden. When we got back it was major pee city for quite a while and we tried everything - including some wrong things like getting cross if we caught him in action. I got so frantic I was contemplating spending a fortune for a cat "psy" - but before I did I followed a link on his web site which explained why cats do this and what to do about it. The main thing that worked for us instantly was putting lots of small bowls of dried cat food all around the house - food = security. The next thing was to get rid of the cat pee smell but not to replace it with another unfamiliar smell that he may find threatening and want to cover up. It also said to rub his face and then rub your hands over the areas to transfer the pheromones - this is where the Feliway comes in. Of course getting angry just make's things worse as they become more stressed. The dried food really worked but you have to put up with lots of little bowls around the house. I eventually removed the ones that seemed un-necessary and found ways of hiding others behind curtains etc. Now we mostly have a problem with the conservatory which he considers as outside because he can see other cats occasionally and the door is often open. We also had an episode on the front door mat - I'm wondering if a cat outside had sprayed near our door, or if he had heard a cat fight in the night. I suggest you try and find what is making him stressed, dried food all over the place (don't forget water, but just in one place will do) and something with enzymes to get rid of previous accident smells - I use Shout stain remover. Good luck, it's not nice however much you love them, nobody wants their house to smell of cat pee. Moi "J1Boss" wrote in message ... I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen I agree that I don't want to use drugs. I have used Feliway spray, but not consistently. Not sure exactly where I should be spraying it at this point, or whether a diffuser would be optimal. And where to locate the diffuser(s). 2 level house, fairly open floorplan. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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I nearly missed this thread in my quest for information on Feliway.
Your cat's problem sounds a bit like mine was. Has anything traumatic (in his terms) happened before he began? The first time we had moved house temporarily whilst some major renovation work was done - he peed on the spare bed a couple of times. When we moved back he stopped. Later he got "lost" for 24 hours - he was only about 200 yards away but he has no sense of direction! He was upset by the whole affaire particularly as he had picked up some sheep ticks. He was ok to begin with but then we went on holiday and my parents came to cat sit (as usual). It was also summer, the patio window was always open and other cats do pass through the garden. When we got back it was major pee city for quite a while and we tried everything - including some wrong things like getting cross if we caught him in action. I got so frantic I was contemplating spending a fortune for a cat "psy" - but before I did I followed a link on his web site which explained why cats do this and what to do about it. The main thing that worked for us instantly was putting lots of small bowls of dried cat food all around the house - food = security. The next thing was to get rid of the cat pee smell but not to replace it with another unfamiliar smell that he may find threatening and want to cover up. It also said to rub his face and then rub your hands over the areas to transfer the pheromones - this is where the Feliway comes in. Of course getting angry just make's things worse as they become more stressed. The dried food really worked but you have to put up with lots of little bowls around the house. I eventually removed the ones that seemed un-necessary and found ways of hiding others behind curtains etc. Now we mostly have a problem with the conservatory which he considers as outside because he can see other cats occasionally and the door is often open. We also had an episode on the front door mat - I'm wondering if a cat outside had sprayed near our door, or if he had heard a cat fight in the night. I suggest you try and find what is making him stressed, dried food all over the place (don't forget water, but just in one place will do) and something with enzymes to get rid of previous accident smells - I use Shout stain remover. Good luck, it's not nice however much you love them, nobody wants their house to smell of cat pee. Moi "J1Boss" wrote in message ... I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen I agree that I don't want to use drugs. I have used Feliway spray, but not consistently. Not sure exactly where I should be spraying it at this point, or whether a diffuser would be optimal. And where to locate the diffuser(s). 2 level house, fairly open floorplan. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Just a quick reply as I'm on my way out...
Yash is also very easy going and always in the middle of anything going on - workmen in the house, visitors etc. Maybe it's not stress as in frightened, more a case of better make sure this lot know whose house it is in case they forget (his of course!). Sorry the dried food can't help, it's such an easy solution in most cases. Moi "J1Boss" wrote in message ... From: "moi" I nearly missed this thread in my quest for information on Feliway. Your cat's problem sounds a bit like mine was. Has anything traumatic (in his terms) happened before he began? Not even a little. He's an incredibly easy going cat. Loves being held by anyone, carried around, gets along great with the other cat and both dogs. He has a very low stress life! The first time we had moved house temporarily whilst some major renovation work was done - he peed on the spare bed a couple of times. When we moved back he stopped. We had renovation going on here, but he insisted on putting himself in the middle of it. Snuggling up to the cabinet installers, drywallers, counter-measurers........ He used his box in the midst of all of it with no problem. A good deal of the construction went on in the "cat room". It's a 12 x 18 laundry room lined with brand new cabinets. The cats eat on the counter, their boxes are in an open cabinet, choice of 2 types of litter. He even used his box when the room was flooded with 2" of icy water (which precipitated the renovation!). He likes to stand in the shower - water doesn't bother him! Later he got "lost" for 24 hours - he was only about 200 yards away but he has no sense of direction! He was upset by the whole affaire particularly as he had picked up some sheep ticks. He was ok to begin with but then we went on holiday and my parents came to cat sit (as usual). It was also summer, the patio window was always open and other cats do pass through the garden. When we got back it was major pee city for quite a while and we tried everything - including some wrong things like getting cross if we caught him in action. Skip is an indoor-only kitty - no interest at all in going outside (will recline in an open doorway and not go out). No interactions with animals outside his home. I got so frantic I was contemplating spending a fortune for a cat "psy" - but before I did I followed a link on his web site which explained why cats do this and what to do about it. The main thing that worked for us instantly was putting lots of small bowls of dried cat food all around the house - food = security. Can't do that in a house with 2 large dogs! ;-D The next thing was to get rid of the cat pee smell but not to replace it with another unfamiliar smell that he may find threatening and want to cover up. It also said to rub his face and then rub your hands over the areas to transfer the pheromones - this is where the Feliway comes in. I've been using Feliway, but not consistently. I'm going to get some diffusers. Of course getting angry just make's things worse as they become more stressed. While I am not pleased by his behavior, he doesn't get yelled at. Anytime I've seen him start to paw at something that indicates he may be about to squat, he's been interrupted and directed towards his box, but not scolded. The dried food really worked but you have to put up with lots of little bowls around the house. Which is totally impossible here. I suggest you try and find what is making him stressed, dried food all over the place (don't forget water, but just in one place will do) and something with enzymes to get rid of previous accident smells - I use Shout stain remover. I can't find any stress in his life! Truly, I can't find many more relaxed cats. He's totally non-vocal, plays with the other pets, sleeps with me every night, and is on my lap a good deal of the rest of the day. Food is not an option, neither are additional water bowls (all pets currently share one large one, which is located to avoid water splashing, etc). I may get him a fountain though - need to read some threads in whether cats seem to like those or not. I have been using Simple Solution Cat Urine Eliminator, which is enzyme-based, and have used Nature's Miracle as well. Good luck, it's not nice however much you love them, nobody wants their house to smell of cat pee. Moi Absolutely! It's a frustrating problem. I adore this kitty and have no intention of getting rid of him in any fashion, just because of this problem. I know we can conquer it, I just need to find the right combo of steps. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Just a quick reply as I'm on my way out...
Yash is also very easy going and always in the middle of anything going on - workmen in the house, visitors etc. Maybe it's not stress as in frightened, more a case of better make sure this lot know whose house it is in case they forget (his of course!). Sorry the dried food can't help, it's such an easy solution in most cases. Moi "J1Boss" wrote in message ... From: "moi" I nearly missed this thread in my quest for information on Feliway. Your cat's problem sounds a bit like mine was. Has anything traumatic (in his terms) happened before he began? Not even a little. He's an incredibly easy going cat. Loves being held by anyone, carried around, gets along great with the other cat and both dogs. He has a very low stress life! The first time we had moved house temporarily whilst some major renovation work was done - he peed on the spare bed a couple of times. When we moved back he stopped. We had renovation going on here, but he insisted on putting himself in the middle of it. Snuggling up to the cabinet installers, drywallers, counter-measurers........ He used his box in the midst of all of it with no problem. A good deal of the construction went on in the "cat room". It's a 12 x 18 laundry room lined with brand new cabinets. The cats eat on the counter, their boxes are in an open cabinet, choice of 2 types of litter. He even used his box when the room was flooded with 2" of icy water (which precipitated the renovation!). He likes to stand in the shower - water doesn't bother him! Later he got "lost" for 24 hours - he was only about 200 yards away but he has no sense of direction! He was upset by the whole affaire particularly as he had picked up some sheep ticks. He was ok to begin with but then we went on holiday and my parents came to cat sit (as usual). It was also summer, the patio window was always open and other cats do pass through the garden. When we got back it was major pee city for quite a while and we tried everything - including some wrong things like getting cross if we caught him in action. Skip is an indoor-only kitty - no interest at all in going outside (will recline in an open doorway and not go out). No interactions with animals outside his home. I got so frantic I was contemplating spending a fortune for a cat "psy" - but before I did I followed a link on his web site which explained why cats do this and what to do about it. The main thing that worked for us instantly was putting lots of small bowls of dried cat food all around the house - food = security. Can't do that in a house with 2 large dogs! ;-D The next thing was to get rid of the cat pee smell but not to replace it with another unfamiliar smell that he may find threatening and want to cover up. It also said to rub his face and then rub your hands over the areas to transfer the pheromones - this is where the Feliway comes in. I've been using Feliway, but not consistently. I'm going to get some diffusers. Of course getting angry just make's things worse as they become more stressed. While I am not pleased by his behavior, he doesn't get yelled at. Anytime I've seen him start to paw at something that indicates he may be about to squat, he's been interrupted and directed towards his box, but not scolded. The dried food really worked but you have to put up with lots of little bowls around the house. Which is totally impossible here. I suggest you try and find what is making him stressed, dried food all over the place (don't forget water, but just in one place will do) and something with enzymes to get rid of previous accident smells - I use Shout stain remover. I can't find any stress in his life! Truly, I can't find many more relaxed cats. He's totally non-vocal, plays with the other pets, sleeps with me every night, and is on my lap a good deal of the rest of the day. Food is not an option, neither are additional water bowls (all pets currently share one large one, which is located to avoid water splashing, etc). I may get him a fountain though - need to read some threads in whether cats seem to like those or not. I have been using Simple Solution Cat Urine Eliminator, which is enzyme-based, and have used Nature's Miracle as well. Good luck, it's not nice however much you love them, nobody wants their house to smell of cat pee. Moi Absolutely! It's a frustrating problem. I adore this kitty and have no intention of getting rid of him in any fashion, just because of this problem. I know we can conquer it, I just need to find the right combo of steps. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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in article , J1Boss at
wrote on 7/8/03 6:12 AM: I really recommend Feliway for a try before drugs. Karen I agree that I don't want to use drugs. I have used Feliway spray, but not consistently. Not sure exactly where I should be spraying it at this point, or whether a diffuser would be optimal. And where to locate the diffuser(s). 2 level house, fairly open floorplan. Janet Boss Best Friends Dog Obedience "Nice Manners for the Family Pet" Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com I think you must be very consistent with it's use. Adding a diffuser would not hurt, but I think in this instance the spray would be more useful. Karen |
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