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Old March 11th 13, 07:26 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 3/11/2013 1:29 PM, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


jmcquown wrote:

There are signs all over the island where I live (by the many stocked
ponds). "Do Not Feed the Alligators!". My mom told me when they first
started building homesites here (@30 years ago) people thought they
were quaint. Then dogs started going missing. Now, of course, the
Association has strict leash laws.

Jill


Never mind dogs, what about humans? There's a series on Animal Planet
about some people who have a Florida refuge for 'gators. Some of those
they "rescue" could easily consume an adult human! (And of course,
there are the non-native reptiles like pythons - some as long as twelve
feet - that irresponsible "pet owners" let loose in the Everglades when
they grow too big to keep as pets.)


Those folks with the sensational television shows should succumb to
Darwinism. Ditto people with non-native snakes. But this isn't the
Everglades and snakes like that aren't a problem around here.

The alligators here aren't like crocodiles from the 1930's 'Tarzan'
films, either. People don't bother them, they don't bother us. I
called Security when a 'gater was in my yard a year or so ago. (My house
isn't near one of those ponds or the marsh.) They sent someone to
"relocate" it.

Jill
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Old March 11th 13, 10:51 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"MaryL" wrote in message
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That's a true horror story. I'm glad they were able to reattach the
baby's finger and that the mother was able to prevent even worse injury.

MaryL


It's a result of feeding them.

No foxes are fed here. If they even look at my chickens and try to break in
they have such bad luck. Foxman comes and they are gone.

















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Old March 12th 13, 07:56 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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We have problems in the American Southwest with people feeding (or making
garbage accessible to) bears. That has resulted in a number of bear
attacks in suburban areas where humans are more and more invading the
bears' territory. There are organizations that try to relocate the
offending animals, rather than destroying them, but bears aren't stupid.
(Once they've found an easy source of food, they tend to return, and they
can travel fairly long distances.)


I'm lucky we don't have bears here, eh? IMO any wild creature that can pose
a threat to humans should never be fed, it habituates them to not be afraid
of us and that's when we get the problems.
I would ban any TV programmes that suggest "why don't you feed your local
foxes and here is someone doing it, look how nice they are"
Foxes are not nice in the conventional sense of trustworthy doggies. They
are fine as wild animals.
I expect some people will carry on feeding but if they do, they might come
into your house and bite your babies.

I have a different view from the townie-type TV presenters.
It's not that I don't like foxes, but if they become a nuisance to me foxman
will send them to RB.








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Old March 14th 13, 08:49 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Christina Websell wrote:

I would ban any TV programmes that suggest "why don't you feed your local
foxes and here is someone doing it, look how nice they are"
Foxes are not nice in the conventional sense of trustworthy doggies. They
are fine as wild animals.
I expect some people will carry on feeding but if they do, they might come
into your house and bite your babies.


The problem is, even if only some people feed them, they become habituated
to *all* humans. Then, even people who have been responsible and have
refrained from feeding them might still get a visit from a fox. The foxes
aren't going to limit themselves to the babies of people who feed them.

So if someone is continuing to feed foxes or other wild animals, it can
affect everyone. It should be illegal!

It's unfortunate that it has to come to you bringing in the fox hitman, but
on the other hand, that might reintroduce some fear in the surviving foxes.

--
Joyce

Loneliness is comforted by the closeness and touch of fur to fur,
skin to skin, or -- skin to fur. -- Paul Gallico
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Old March 14th 13, 09:59 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Bastette" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

I would ban any TV programmes that suggest "why don't you feed your
local
foxes and here is someone doing it, look how nice they are"
Foxes are not nice in the conventional sense of trustworthy doggies.
They
are fine as wild animals.
I expect some people will carry on feeding but if they do, they might
come
into your house and bite your babies.


The problem is, even if only some people feed them, they become habituated
to *all* humans. Then, even people who have been responsible and have
refrained from feeding them might still get a visit from a fox. The foxes
aren't going to limit themselves to the babies of people who feed them.

So if someone is continuing to feed foxes or other wild animals, it can
affect everyone. It should be illegal!

It's unfortunate that it has to come to you bringing in the fox hitman,
but
on the other hand, that might reintroduce some fear in the surviving
foxes.


It became pointless when foxman told me that the city vermin controllers,
instead of doing their job, were releasing foxes near here.
So I put my birds into safe houses.

He knew that because he knows what *my * foxes look like. they are country
foxes, mine are dark and slim and the ones were caught were light in colour
and fat.
(not to say a country fox has not met his match here)

The worst was I caught a big fat city fox in my fox trap once. He was
asleep when I discovered him and hardly raised an eyebrow when I discovered
him.
I felt really bad about that one - but he was in my hen run..



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Old March 18th 13, 06:02 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 3/10/2013 5:08 PM, MaryL wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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"MaryL" wrote in message
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I thought of you when I heard a local news report last night. We have
a lot of people in this area who keep a few backyard chickens, and the
report talked about a woman who has a small business as a "chicken
sitter." So, just as I use a pet sitter when I go on vacation (or
once when I was in the hospital), people who have chickens and can't
be home use her to take care of their chickens. She feeds them, puts
them in at night, gathers eggs, etc. I thought this might interest you.

MaryL


Hi, Mary

I've replied to this twice but for some some reason it hasn't appeared
either time. So here goes again:

Thank you for sending this, it was very interesting. We don't seem to have
the same pet-sitting culture here as you do in the USA. Pet sitters do
exist but are few and far between.

I wouldn't mind being a chicken-sitter, but I'd be reluctant unless they
were very nearby (like next door) because of the terrible daytime fox
problem we have. I'd hate it if my clients got home to find all their
chickens were ex-chickens.

In the last few weeks a fox has entered a house and eaten the finger off a
month old baby. Add this to a couple of years ago another fox went into a
house and did some severe facial damage to baby twins. There is now a call
for a cull of foxes in London.
Once upon a time, before some of the nature programmes on the telly that
encourage people to feed them, foxes were afraid of humans and only roamed
around during the night - which is how it should be IMO.
Tweed

~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks, Tweed. Your message came through this time. We do have a lot
of pet sitters, but chicken sitters are rather unusual. I have a friend
who was hospitalized for several weeks in December. She has cats, a
dog, horses, two burros, chickens and a few ducks. Luckily, someone who
lives near her was able to take care of all the "critters" while she was
ill.

Your description of problems with foxes is why I think we should not
feed wild animals. I love to look at them, but feeding them destroys
their fear of humans. That, in turn, becomes a danger both to humans
and to the animals who have lost their fear.

MaryL




The story Tweed wrote is horrendous. I don't think a fox could get in
my house, so I wonder how they get in? Your view about feeding wild
animals should also pertain to feeding birds, but it's hard to stop
feeding them when you enjoy watching them through your window. I
stopped feeding birds because the food not only attracted birds, but
squirrels, and encouraged the squirrels to bear their young here. Both
the birds and the baby squirrels encouraged the large population of
stray/feral cats in the area and while I love cats, I don't want to draw
them here for a feeding fest.
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Old March 18th 13, 06:11 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 3/10/2013 8:53 PM, Christina Websell wrote:

and here it is:
http://news.sky.com/story/1050008/fo...-in-cot-attack

note the wildlife presenter's views.

I rest my case.
Foxes are fine, in their place, which is being afraid of humans and skulking
around during the night. Not being fed and made bold and that's what can
happen if you do.


I read the article, and I don't understand why the door was left open??
If a door is open, it's going to attract something to come in, right?


My foxes are not too bold here, as if they are a nuisance they meet foxman
who introduces them to his firearm.
They are not a nuisance if they pass through my garden on their way to
somewhere else. They*are* a nuisance if they start looking at my chickens
and trying to dig in to them under the runs or huts. They can't get in
unless they can dig through paving slabs or through steel plated huts anyway
but if I see a sign that they are trying..they need to be afraid.


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Old March 18th 13, 06:26 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 3/10/2013 8:53 PM, Christina Websell wrote:

and here it is:
http://news.sky.com/story/1050008/fo...-in-cot-attack

note the wildlife presenter's views.

I rest my case.
Foxes are fine, in their place, which is being afraid of humans and
skulking
around during the night. Not being fed and made bold and that's what can
happen if you do.


I read the article, and I don't understand why the door was left open?? If
a door is open, it's going to attract something to come in, right?


Well, no, not usually here, unless it's a too brave fox or someone's cat who
realises "whoops, that's not my house.."

I had this brilliant idea when I was lying awake last night. Why don't the
London councils offer a "vitamin powder" to the fox-feeders to add to the
food which is really a contraceptive?
A campaign on the local London TV to say "if you feed foxes, get this
supplement, it will do them good." would be great.
It would indeed do them good. It would mean that they do not breed out of
control and sneak into houses to attack tiny children in their beds.
UK residents should be able to have their door open without expecting foxes
inside their house. If they feed them, this will happen.


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Old March 18th 13, 07:00 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 3/10/2013 5:08 PM, MaryL wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


"MaryL" wrote in message
...
I thought of you when I heard a local news report last night. We have
a lot of people in this area who keep a few backyard chickens, and the
report talked about a woman who has a small business as a "chicken
sitter." So, just as I use a pet sitter when I go on vacation (or
once when I was in the hospital), people who have chickens and can't
be home use her to take care of their chickens. She feeds them, puts
them in at night, gathers eggs, etc. I thought this might interest you.

MaryL


Hi, Mary

I've replied to this twice but for some some reason it hasn't appeared
either time. So here goes again:

Thank you for sending this, it was very interesting. We don't seem to
have
the same pet-sitting culture here as you do in the USA. Pet sitters do
exist but are few and far between.

I wouldn't mind being a chicken-sitter, but I'd be reluctant unless they
were very nearby (like next door) because of the terrible daytime fox
problem we have. I'd hate it if my clients got home to find all their
chickens were ex-chickens.

In the last few weeks a fox has entered a house and eaten the finger off
a
month old baby. Add this to a couple of years ago another fox went into
a
house and did some severe facial damage to baby twins. There is now a
call
for a cull of foxes in London.
Once upon a time, before some of the nature programmes on the telly that
encourage people to feed them, foxes were afraid of humans and only
roamed
around during the night - which is how it should be IMO.
Tweed

~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks, Tweed. Your message came through this time. We do have a lot
of pet sitters, but chicken sitters are rather unusual. I have a friend
who was hospitalized for several weeks in December. She has cats, a
dog, horses, two burros, chickens and a few ducks. Luckily, someone who
lives near her was able to take care of all the "critters" while she was
ill.

Your description of problems with foxes is why I think we should not
feed wild animals. I love to look at them, but feeding them destroys
their fear of humans. That, in turn, becomes a danger both to humans
and to the animals who have lost their fear.

MaryL




The story Tweed wrote is horrendous. I don't think a fox could get in my
house, so I wonder how they get in? Your view about feeding wild animals
should also pertain to feeding birds, but it's hard to stop feeding them
when you enjoy watching them through your window. I stopped feeding birds
because the food not only attracted birds, but squirrels, and encouraged
the squirrels to bear their young here. Both the birds and the baby
squirrels encouraged the large population of stray/feral cats in the area
and while I love cats, I don't want to draw them here for a feeding fest.


continue feeding the birds and the cats. Squirrels (grey) not welcome here
but I've not instructed foxman to anything about them.
As for foxes, well, I had to get my birds into safe huts and runs after a
real daytime disaster. 22 killed. That was dreadful. Some had managed to
hide, most had their heads off.
If I see a fox near I get foxman in. He has a nice rifle.








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Old March 18th 13, 09:22 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 3/18/2013 2:00 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"Cheryl" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 3/10/2013 5:08 PM, MaryL wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


"MaryL" wrote in message
...
I thought of you when I heard a local news report last night.
We have a lot of people in this area who keep a few backyard
chickens, and the report talked about a woman who has a small
business as a "chicken sitter." So, just as I use a pet sitter
when I go on vacation (or once when I was in the hospital),
people who have chickens and can't be home use her to take care
of their chickens. She feeds them, puts them in at night,
gathers eggs, etc. I thought this might interest you.

MaryL


Hi, Mary

I've replied to this twice but for some some reason it hasn't
appeared either time. So here goes again:

Thank you for sending this, it was very interesting. We don't
seem to have the same pet-sitting culture here as you do in the
USA. Pet sitters do exist but are few and far between.

I wouldn't mind being a chicken-sitter, but I'd be reluctant
unless they were very nearby (like next door) because of the
terrible daytime fox problem we have. I'd hate it if my clients
got home to find all their chickens were ex-chickens.

In the last few weeks a fox has entered a house and eaten the
finger off a month old baby. Add this to a couple of years ago
another fox went into a house and did some severe facial damage
to baby twins. There is now a call for a cull of foxes in
London. Once upon a time, before some of the nature programmes on
the telly that encourage people to feed them, foxes were afraid
of humans and only roamed around during the night - which is how
it should be IMO. Tweed

~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Tweed. Your message came through this time.
We do have a lot of pet sitters, but chicken sitters are rather
unusual. I have a friend who was hospitalized for several weeks
in December. She has cats, a dog, horses, two burros, chickens
and a few ducks. Luckily, someone who lives near her was able to
take care of all the "critters" while she was ill.

Your description of problems with foxes is why I think we should
not feed wild animals. I love to look at them, but feeding them
destroys their fear of humans. That, in turn, becomes a danger
both to humans and to the animals who have lost their fear.

MaryL




The story Tweed wrote is horrendous. I don't think a fox could get
in my house, so I wonder how they get in? Your view about feeding
wild animals should also pertain to feeding birds, but it's hard to
stop feeding them when you enjoy watching them through your window.
I stopped feeding birds because the food not only attracted birds,
but squirrels, and encouraged the squirrels to bear their young
here. Both the birds and the baby squirrels encouraged the large
population of stray/feral cats in the area and while I love cats, I
don't want to draw them here for a feeding fest.


continue feeding the birds and the cats. Squirrels (grey) not
welcome here but I've not instructed foxman to anything about them.
As for foxes, well, I had to get my birds into safe huts and runs
after a real daytime disaster. 22 killed. That was dreadful. Some
had managed to hide, most had their heads off. If I see a fox near I
get foxman in. He has a nice rifle.

I remember when you wrote about the chicken massacre. That must have
been so horrible to see.

I'm still choosing not to feed the birds. In one way I liked having the
stray/feral cats around because they were very effective at killing
rodents and sometimes I'd even hear the little mice or voles screaming
in the night and knew it was because of a cat. But then again, my house
is right on a very busy road and I didn't like seeing so many dead cats
that had been hit by cars. So I would rather they stay away.


 




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