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Counting stray cats while cycling at night
"Christina Websell" writes:
I'm not going to enter into an argument. It's my opinion that cats like to go out in UK and they should. If I adopted a cat from a shelter here they wouldn't let me keep it totally in the house. I adopted a pair of cats in the UK from a shelter and we were honest about intending to keep them indoors. The RSPCA guy came for a home visit and was quite interested to hear about indoor cats -- the idea was clearly new to him -- but we explained more and he had no problem with it and adopted the cats. -- Mark |
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Mark Carroll writes:
(snip) we explained more and he had no problem with it and adopted the cats. Ha, sorry for the ambiguity, *we* adopted the cats. (-: -- Mark |
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buglady wrote:
John Doe wrote: Having fewer stray cats in Europe nowadays probably helps keep the bubonic plague away. You all were nearly wiped out and traumatized by the bubonic plague, makes sense that you are scared to death of stray animals. I hope something like that never happens here, but I fear it could. ..........Huh? Bubonic plague comes from fleas on rats or other rodents. Obviously it can come from fleas on cats too. Fleas are equal opportunity biters. Otherwise they wouldn't bite us. Cats killed rats. Unfortunately cats can be killed by the plague too, so things only got worse over time. My guess is that depending on cats to kill rats was one of their problems. Using cats is probably better than using poison and traps, but better would be cleaning up after themselves. Avoid attracting the rats in the first place. The major factor of spread was the rats on the ships, which transported it all over. And there already is bubonic plague here popping up occasionally in AZ. http://www.azdhs.gov/phs/oids/vector/plague/ That's very interesting. .........She's saying the cats in the UK are owned, not strays, not that there aren't cats all over outside. I C. I should have been more precise in my wording. -- buglady take out the dog before replying |
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"Christina Websell" wrote:
"John Doe" wrote: I bought a powerful LED headlamp. Took it for a ride after dark two nights ago...In my peripheral vision, in the light's outer coverage area, without turning my head to look, I could see all the little pairs of cat eyes peering at me on the way to the store. The modern LED headlamp is like having car headlights strapped to your forhead. I would find a lot of of eyes from cats who are allowed out as indoor/outdoor cats. Including Boyfie. So you were playing semantics because you disagree with the idea that keeping a cat outside might be wrong? Of course there is no way to tell just by looking from a distance whether a cat is owned or not. |
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Mark Carroll wrote in :
Mark Carroll writes: we explained more and he had no problem with it and adopted the cats. Ha, sorry for the ambiguity, *we* adopted the cats. (-: FWIW... Yeah, it was ambiguous, but I read "out" into it. As in "he adopted out the cats". |
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On 2/15/2015 6:09 PM, John Doe wrote:
My guess is that depending on cats to kill rats was one of their problems. Using cats is probably better than using poison and traps, but better would be cleaning up after themselves. Avoid attracting the rats in the first place. ..........Um, this was the Middle Ages. Just how clean do you think it was? And they did not understand the connection between filth and germs or pests. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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buglady wrote:
John Doe wrote: My guess is that depending on cats to kill rats was one of their problems. Using cats is probably better than using poison and traps, but better would be cleaning up after themselves. Avoid attracting the rats in the first place. this was the Middle Ages. Just how clean do you think it was? Don't really know. I'm sure it varied from one locale to another. And they did not understand the connection between filth and germs or pests. But seriously. Noticing that breadcrumbs attract ants, cockroaches, or rats is not a high level process. |
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"Mark Carroll" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" writes: I'm not going to enter into an argument. It's my opinion that cats like to go out in UK and they should. If I adopted a cat from a shelter here they wouldn't let me keep it totally in the house. I adopted a pair of cats in the UK from a shelter and we were honest about intending to keep them indoors. The RSPCA guy came for a home visit and was quite interested to hear about indoor cats -- the idea was clearly new to him -- but we explained more and he had no problem with it and adopted the cats. -- Mark That surprises me. I'd like to believe you. but I don't. As much as I don't like the RSPCA, I hope they won't ever adopt cats out for a totally indoor home or I'll like them even less. Cats are best indoor/outdoor. Outdoor for a bit of hunting mousies and ratties and indoor when they prefer the bed by the fire. I would not have a cat to keep it totally inside in the UK and I'm amazed that the RSPCA have agreed. |
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Counting stray cats while cycling at night
So now this troll is saying that cats should be outside "to hunt mousies
and ratties". Maybe they should be outside playing with skunks and raccoons, vectors for rabies... -- "Christina Websell" spamfree tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk wrote in news:ckcrsiFqr9qU2 mid.individual.net: Path: eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!f u-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Christina Websell" spamfree tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Counting stray cats while cycling at night Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:27:56 -0000 Lines: 28 Message-ID: ckcrsiFqr9qU2 mid.individual.net References: mbj4uk$a6u$1 dont-email.me ck7clgFe0i0U2 mid.individual.netsd8vda91o981t1osrr517q98n75dbm 906v 4ax.comckc97nFm2b0U3 mid.individual.net 87lhjy7sfv.fsf ixod.org X-Trace: individual.net vxmDgu178MxPlpBIBwr1eQs2rqQN2bsK9UoL9qqzgOtYfRpM8Q Cancel-Lock: sha1:W2+5H5D4pYEz9kRmXFrNTKIYshg= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Xref: mx02.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:12017 "Mark Carroll" mtbc ixod.org wrote in message news:87lhjy7sfv.fsf ixod.org... "Christina Websell" spamfree tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk writes: I'm not going to enter into an argument. It's my opinion that cats like to go out in UK and they should. If I adopted a cat from a shelter here they wouldn't let me keep it totally in the house. I adopted a pair of cats in the UK from a shelter and we were honest about intending to keep them indoors. The RSPCA guy came for a home visit and was quite interested to hear about indoor cats -- the idea was clearly new to him -- but we explained more and he had no problem with it and adopted the cats. -- Mark That surprises me. I'd like to believe you. but I don't. As much as I don't like the RSPCA, I hope they won't ever adopt cats out for a totally indoor home or I'll like them even less. Cats are best indoor/outdoor. Outdoor for a bit of hunting mousies and ratties and indoor when they prefer the bed by the fire. I would not have a cat to keep it totally inside in the UK and I'm amazed that the RSPCA have agreed. |
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Per Dick Ballard:
I get the impression from some sources that NOT allowing one's pet cat to free roam is considered a form of abuse by many in Britain. Couple years back I saw a documentary about a guy who studied cats in the UK. His method was to recruit a number of cat owners who agreed to seal anything their cat brought home in a plastic bag and freeze it until the investigator came around periodically to collect and catalog them. I can't recall the numbers, but he found that each made quite a dent in the local small animal population. -- Pete Cresswell |
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