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From: Alison Perera lid
, olitter (PawsForThought) wrote: From: "Knack" I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. Like canned salmon, it includes bones that are somehow softened by the heating-canning process. Contains lots of protein, calcium, and fish oil. Comes from Chile. Just wondering about its magnesium content. Keep in mind that a jack mackerel is only a 11" (28cm) fish that doesn't live for anywhere near as long as a tuna. This is a cooked human food? I would only give it to a cat as an occasional treat, not as his regular diet. Cats have very specific nutritional needs very different from our own. Lauren, do you supplement omega-3 fatty acids? If so, how? I do use whole body fish oil in capsule form. I'm highly allergic to fish so I can't feed my cats any fish. My husband handles the fish oil Personally, I feed my cats the occasional meal of canned oily fish: salmon or mackerel. Cheaper and more available than uncooked fish; more palatable; less prone to being contaminated by flukes (since we eat wild-caught Alaskan salmon in my household). Yes, cooked human food. They say mackeral can be high in mercury and other contaminants, I guess depending on the source, but I don't think an occasional meal is going to hurt. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. ... Check the ingredients. If it has onions in the gravy, do not feed it to your cat. Onion can cause a dangerous anemia in cats. Annie |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. ... Check the ingredients. If it has onions in the gravy, do not feed it to your cat. Onion can cause a dangerous anemia in cats. Annie |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. ... Check the ingredients. If it has onions in the gravy, do not feed it to your cat. Onion can cause a dangerous anemia in cats. Annie |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. Like canned salmon, it includes bones that are somehow softened by the heating-canning process. Contains lots of protein, calcium, and fish oil. ..... and possibly ciguatoxin. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for about 10 years. He was presented with several cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting in cats that were recently fed mackerel. One case involved two of three cats in a household - the third, asymptomatic cat, did not eat the mackeral. At the time there was no test to definitively diagnose ciguatera poisoning, however, the symptoms in the cats closely resembled ciguatera poisoning in humans. He encountered a few other cats over the years with the same symptoms who also recently consumed mackeral - that's why he suspected ciguatera poisoning. There's no way to detect ciguatoxin in fish -- and there's no way to destroy it. Cooking, freezing and canning have no effect. So the best way to reduce the risk is to avoid the fish that are known carriers of ciguatoxin. Also, the larger the fish, the higher the concentration of ciguatoxin - big fish eat little fish contaminated with ciguatoxin -- and bigger fish eat those fish and so on. The highest risk is in fillets because they can be cut from 100-pound King Mackerals. I would avoid feeding raw fish to cats altogether. Some fish contain thiaminase - which is an enzyme that destroys thiamin (vitamin B1). Cats are very susceptible to thiamin deficiency because of their high requirement for thiamin. The risk for thiamin destruction exists only when fish is fed raw -- cooking destroys thiaminase. Good luck. Phil. Just wondering about its magnesium content. Keep in mind that a jack mackerel is only a 11" (28cm) fish that doesn't live for anywhere near as long as a tuna. |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. Like canned salmon, it includes bones that are somehow softened by the heating-canning process. Contains lots of protein, calcium, and fish oil. ..... and possibly ciguatoxin. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for about 10 years. He was presented with several cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting in cats that were recently fed mackerel. One case involved two of three cats in a household - the third, asymptomatic cat, did not eat the mackeral. At the time there was no test to definitively diagnose ciguatera poisoning, however, the symptoms in the cats closely resembled ciguatera poisoning in humans. He encountered a few other cats over the years with the same symptoms who also recently consumed mackeral - that's why he suspected ciguatera poisoning. There's no way to detect ciguatoxin in fish -- and there's no way to destroy it. Cooking, freezing and canning have no effect. So the best way to reduce the risk is to avoid the fish that are known carriers of ciguatoxin. Also, the larger the fish, the higher the concentration of ciguatoxin - big fish eat little fish contaminated with ciguatoxin -- and bigger fish eat those fish and so on. The highest risk is in fillets because they can be cut from 100-pound King Mackerals. I would avoid feeding raw fish to cats altogether. Some fish contain thiaminase - which is an enzyme that destroys thiamin (vitamin B1). Cats are very susceptible to thiamin deficiency because of their high requirement for thiamin. The risk for thiamin destruction exists only when fish is fed raw -- cooking destroys thiaminase. Good luck. Phil. Just wondering about its magnesium content. Keep in mind that a jack mackerel is only a 11" (28cm) fish that doesn't live for anywhere near as long as a tuna. |
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"Knack" wrote in message ink.net... I can get it locally for only US$1.00 per 15 ounce (425g) can. It has a light tomtato gravy, but no vegetable oil. Like canned salmon, it includes bones that are somehow softened by the heating-canning process. Contains lots of protein, calcium, and fish oil. ..... and possibly ciguatoxin. One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for about 10 years. He was presented with several cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting in cats that were recently fed mackerel. One case involved two of three cats in a household - the third, asymptomatic cat, did not eat the mackeral. At the time there was no test to definitively diagnose ciguatera poisoning, however, the symptoms in the cats closely resembled ciguatera poisoning in humans. He encountered a few other cats over the years with the same symptoms who also recently consumed mackeral - that's why he suspected ciguatera poisoning. There's no way to detect ciguatoxin in fish -- and there's no way to destroy it. Cooking, freezing and canning have no effect. So the best way to reduce the risk is to avoid the fish that are known carriers of ciguatoxin. Also, the larger the fish, the higher the concentration of ciguatoxin - big fish eat little fish contaminated with ciguatoxin -- and bigger fish eat those fish and so on. The highest risk is in fillets because they can be cut from 100-pound King Mackerals. I would avoid feeding raw fish to cats altogether. Some fish contain thiaminase - which is an enzyme that destroys thiamin (vitamin B1). Cats are very susceptible to thiamin deficiency because of their high requirement for thiamin. The risk for thiamin destruction exists only when fish is fed raw -- cooking destroys thiaminase. Good luck. Phil. Just wondering about its magnesium content. Keep in mind that a jack mackerel is only a 11" (28cm) fish that doesn't live for anywhere near as long as a tuna. |
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