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Indoor cats
First let me say I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just interested in the
(apparent) culture difference between the US & the UK as regards our feline friends. With regard to letting cats out: All the cats I know go outside, they (usually) learn their way back home from their local neighbourhood, they don't go too far but suss out gardens, wildlife, other cats and people, and hopefully realise that traffic isn't for playing with. There's not too many birds in London and no-one seems to care about the pigeon population anyway. Some get lost, some get hit by traffic (mine for example isn't allowed out the front to the road, only the back garden where he doesn't seem to want to climb the fence to escape from but if he did I'd let him). It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). It seems that in the US people are much more likely to force cats to stay indoors, or take them out on a leash (something I've NEVER heard of over here and to be honest I think people would laugh over here if they saw a cat on a lead, but fair play for succeeding in training a cat to do it), or build these enclosure thingies for them, to protect the wildlife, also I've never seen one over here. It's interesting, do you think it's a cultural thing? How long have people in the US been doing these things? Perhaps it's not the general population, just people in cat groups As I say, I wasn't saying that either way is right, it's just interesting how people do things differently. Marcia Lord Otis's slave and minder |
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Why cats should be indoors...A perfect example was found today. There had been a precious tiger cat (not more than 1 yr) roaming our neighborhood. I gave him some food, but thinking he belonged to someone, I dismissed taking him in. This morning I found him in our alley next to us, hit by a car and smashed. I called the Animal Control so he could be "laid to rest". My husband and I scooted him over away from getting repeatedly smashed and covered him up with a old cloth. I wish people who own pets would keep a better eye on them. This poor kitty didnt deserve to have his life ended so soon and like it did. |
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shortfuse wrote: Why cats should be indoors...A perfect example was found today. Right now in Halifax, there is a bylaw on the table that will forbid cat owners from allowing their pets outside unsupervised/unleashed. They have had THAT MANY complaints about cats trespassing on neighbours' property and leaving feces about town. --Fil |
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"Enfilade" wrote in message ups.com... shortfuse wrote: Why cats should be indoors...A perfect example was found today. Right now in Halifax, there is a bylaw on the table that will forbid cat owners from allowing their pets outside unsupervised/unleashed. They have had THAT MANY complaints about cats trespassing on neighbours' property and leaving feces about town. --Fil The condo I live in has a bylaw that states that all pets must be leashed or in carriers or held by humans while in the common areas. But I still see cats and dogs roaming free in the hallway. Once a dog jumped on me when I opened my door to go to work. Another time a dog came nosing on my door and drew Rusty's attention. Not to mention the 3 cats that live on my floor frequently roam the hallway. While the common areas are prefectly safe for them, not all encounters with them are pleasant. Winnie |
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wrote in message oups.com... First let me say I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just interested in the (apparent) culture difference between the US & the UK as regards our feline friends. With regard to letting cats out: All the cats I know go outside, they (usually) learn their way back home from their local neighbourhood, they don't go too far but suss out gardens, wildlife, other cats and people, and hopefully realise that traffic isn't for playing with. There's not too many birds in London and no-one seems to care about the pigeon population anyway. Some get lost, some get hit by traffic (mine for example isn't allowed out the front to the road, only the back garden where he doesn't seem to want to climb the fence to escape from but if he did I'd let him). It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). It seems that in the US people are much more likely to force cats to stay indoors, or take them out on a leash (something I've NEVER heard of over here and to be honest I think people would laugh over here if they saw a cat on a lead, but fair play for succeeding in training a cat to do it), or build these enclosure thingies for them, to protect the wildlife, also I've never seen one over here. It's interesting, do you think it's a cultural thing? How long have people in the US been doing these things? Perhaps it's not the general population, just people in cat groups As I say, I wasn't saying that either way is right, it's just interesting how people do things differently. Marcia Lord Otis's slave and minder It just isn't the same in the USA as it is here. Yes, there is a huge cultural difference, like declawing being offered at the same time as speutering presumably because of an assumption that most cats will stay inside and furniture is king.. BUT. They have the most awful predators there. Cat-eating ones, which, apart from the renegade fox, we don't have here. Mountain lions, coyotes, bears are just waiting to snap up your cat. And big bad traffic like we have never experienced. At least I think this is the reason that I've learned from this group why cats are mainly kept inside in the USA. Yes? Or is it really just cultural? and some of it not necessary, because this made me think hard. Tweed |
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Christina Websell wrote: wrote in message oups.com... First let me say I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just interested in the (apparent) culture difference between the US & the UK as regards our feline friends. With regard to letting cats out: All the cats I know go outside, they (usually) learn their way back home from their local neighbourhood, they don't go too far but suss out gardens, wildlife, other cats and people, and hopefully realise that traffic isn't for playing with. There's not too many birds in London and no-one seems to care about the pigeon population anyway. Some get lost, some get hit by traffic (mine for example isn't allowed out the front to the road, only the back garden where he doesn't seem to want to climb the fence to escape from but if he did I'd let him). It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). It seems that in the US people are much more likely to force cats to stay indoors, or take them out on a leash (something I've NEVER heard of over here and to be honest I think people would laugh over here if they saw a cat on a lead, but fair play for succeeding in training a cat to do it), or build these enclosure thingies for them, to protect the wildlife, also I've never seen one over here. It's interesting, do you think it's a cultural thing? How long have people in the US been doing these things? Perhaps it's not the general population, just people in cat groups As I say, I wasn't saying that either way is right, it's just interesting how people do things differently. Marcia Lord Otis's slave and minder It just isn't the same in the USA as it is here. Yes, there is a huge cultural difference, like declawing being offered at the same time as speutering presumably because of an assumption that most cats will stay inside and furniture is king.. BUT. They have the most awful predators there. Cat-eating ones, which, apart from the renegade fox, we don't have here. Mountain lions, coyotes, bears are just waiting to snap up your cat. And big bad traffic like we have never experienced. At least I think this is the reason that I've learned from this group why cats are mainly kept inside in the USA. Yes? Or is it really just cultural? and some of it not necessary, because this made me think hard. Tweed Piggy-backing on Tweed (lightly, dear, wouldn't want to hurt you): Another thing, at least in my area... I've seen (and reported) people who swerve their vehicle in order TO hit a cat, I've seen them drive onto people's lawns (or sidewalks, or the other side of the road) in order to run over a cat. Then we've got the ones (in my neighbo(u)rhood) who enjoy poisoning animals (they've been reported as well) or shooting them (not just cats). Where I live the predators are as Tweed listed, then there are the feral dogs, who do not know how to "kill" correctly, and that is the worst thing to find (they don't do a kill bite at the throat or spine - they just rip that animal apart while it's still fighting) and/or hear. I've seen this, and gotten bitten trying to stop an attack on a little kid (I managed, baseball bats are wonderful things) with several other people. Some of the predators here aren't just interested in cats, they like to get dogs, ponies, and children too. One is only allowed to kill a predator if it's attacking a child (or adult), and even then one gets to deal with fines and punishment for killing "protected" species (punishment seems to be community service in the few cases I know about). Smokie Darling (Annie) - all of my masters and mistresses now prefer the "great" indoors, so long as they can look outside. |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... First let me say I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just interested in the (apparent) culture difference between the US & the UK as regards our feline friends. With regard to letting cats out: All the cats I know go outside, they (usually) learn their way back home from their local neighbourhood, they don't go too far but suss out gardens, wildlife, other cats and people, and hopefully realise that traffic isn't for playing with. There's not too many birds in London and no-one seems to care about the pigeon population anyway. Some get lost, some get hit by traffic (mine for example isn't allowed out the front to the road, only the back garden where he doesn't seem to want to climb the fence to escape from but if he did I'd let him). It seems natural for a cat to want to venture outside, and to me it's cruel to keep them inside (unless they're not interested). It seems that in the US people are much more likely to force cats to stay indoors, or take them out on a leash (something I've NEVER heard of over here and to be honest I think people would laugh over here if they saw a cat on a lead, but fair play for succeeding in training a cat to do it), or build these enclosure thingies for them, to protect the wildlife, also I've never seen one over here. It's interesting, do you think it's a cultural thing? How long have people in the US been doing these things? Perhaps it's not the general population, just people in cat groups As I say, I wasn't saying that either way is right, it's just interesting how people do things differently. Marcia Lord Otis's slave and minder It just isn't the same in the USA as it is here. Yes, there is a huge cultural difference, like declawing being offered at the same time as speutering presumably because of an assumption that most cats will stay inside and furniture is king.. BUT. They have the most awful predators there. Cat-eating ones, which, apart from the renegade fox, we don't have here. Mountain lions, coyotes, bears are just waiting to snap up your cat. And big bad traffic like we have never experienced. At least I think this is the reason that I've learned from this group why cats are mainly kept inside in the USA. Yes? Or is it really just cultural? and some of it not necessary, because this made me think hard. Tweed I don't want my cats outside because cars don't stop for them, we have raccoons (rabid), possums (rabid), rats (rabid) not to mention the fleas, ear mites, feline leukemia, feline aids.........why WOULD you let your cat out? Seriously? Do you like paying for vet visits? My female cat, Chloe is very happy to be where she is; she's SUCH the sweetheart, my male cat is a devil in cat's clothing. I'd love to let him out just to get the dickens out of him, but at what cost? You can't have an indoor/outdoor cat without infesting your house with fleas, mites and ticks or whatever. I just don't see the point. kili |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:13:55 GMT, "kilikini"
, clicked their heels and said: You can't have an indoor/outdoor cat without infesting your house with fleas, mites and ticks or whatever. I just don't see the point. kili While my cats stay in, for their safety and wellbeing, the above comment is absurd. Dogs go out every day and don't infest houses with fleas, mites and ticks, and cats are no different. My cats can go on the deck or patio with us, but never unattended outside, and I don't trust the dog behind me not to come over the fence at them, so close to the house or not at all. Skipjack say not at all - he will stay in an open doorway. As far as cultural differences, the US is a very different place from many other countries. The population (human, feline,, canine, wild animals) just can't be compared, nor that vicious beast, the automobile. -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album |
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