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Cat Protector wrote:
I hardly see how pain will help here. A cat should never be hit or popped with anything. Results. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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PawsForThought wrote:
I agree. Also, whose to say the rubberband won't hit the cat in the face or in an eye. Covered that: "Make sure your aim is good and you make no shots above their waist". -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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PawsForThought wrote:
I agree. Also, whose to say the rubberband won't hit the cat in the face or in an eye. Covered that: "Make sure your aim is good and you make no shots above their waist". -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Gary wrote:
Pop him in the ass with a rubber band a few times, accompanied by a loud "NO". It won't kill them and it won't make them hate you. It just makes them fear you. This is no different than hitting or yelling at them and negative reinforcement does not work. This is extremely bad advice and I hope the original poster has enough sense to ignore it. The best thing he can do for this cat is get him a tall cat tree and redirect him away from the curtains and onto the cat tree, which should be easy. Giving the cat something of his own he can climb to his hearts content is the quickest way to stop him fom climbing the curtains. Climbing is a natural behavior of cats and you should not try to stop them because it is not fair to the cat and would be an exercise in futility. Instead you figure out something that is cat friendly and allows the cat to indulge in the climbing behavior away from the curtains. It will break him of the habit. Make sure your aim is good and you make no shots above their waist. It doesn't take much - just a few times and he'll start figuring it out. Now, I have only to show my cats the rubber band, and they behave real quick. Which means your method DOES NOT work. You are still showing them the rubber band so they obviously are continuing to exhibit the behavior. Haven't had to use it in ages. Yes, you've made your cats fear you when a rubber band is in your hands. Lovely. The most effective way to get a cat to do what you want is by using *positive* reinforcement, and channeling natural behaviors to appropriate areas or items, not by abusing them by "popping them in the ass." Megan (disgusted) "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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Gary wrote:
Pop him in the ass with a rubber band a few times, accompanied by a loud "NO". It won't kill them and it won't make them hate you. It just makes them fear you. This is no different than hitting or yelling at them and negative reinforcement does not work. This is extremely bad advice and I hope the original poster has enough sense to ignore it. The best thing he can do for this cat is get him a tall cat tree and redirect him away from the curtains and onto the cat tree, which should be easy. Giving the cat something of his own he can climb to his hearts content is the quickest way to stop him fom climbing the curtains. Climbing is a natural behavior of cats and you should not try to stop them because it is not fair to the cat and would be an exercise in futility. Instead you figure out something that is cat friendly and allows the cat to indulge in the climbing behavior away from the curtains. It will break him of the habit. Make sure your aim is good and you make no shots above their waist. It doesn't take much - just a few times and he'll start figuring it out. Now, I have only to show my cats the rubber band, and they behave real quick. Which means your method DOES NOT work. You are still showing them the rubber band so they obviously are continuing to exhibit the behavior. Haven't had to use it in ages. Yes, you've made your cats fear you when a rubber band is in your hands. Lovely. The most effective way to get a cat to do what you want is by using *positive* reinforcement, and channeling natural behaviors to appropriate areas or items, not by abusing them by "popping them in the ass." Megan (disgusted) "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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"Priscilla Ballou" wrote in message news In article , (Sherry ) wrote: You should see the undercurtains in my front room. They started as sheers, but now I'm calling them "abstract lace." It's art, Priscilla. Really. They worked hard on it, just for you. Oh, yes. I know they did! LOL Some cats paint, mine make lace. Priscilla -- Mine create fur-lined drapes. MaryL |
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"Priscilla Ballou" wrote in message news In article , (Sherry ) wrote: You should see the undercurtains in my front room. They started as sheers, but now I'm calling them "abstract lace." It's art, Priscilla. Really. They worked hard on it, just for you. Oh, yes. I know they did! LOL Some cats paint, mine make lace. Priscilla -- Mine create fur-lined drapes. MaryL |
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in article , Sherry at
wrote on 8/17/03 10:01 PM: Me, I would take the curtains down until he gets older and more trained. The blinds, I keep up during the day with the pull strings securely clipped up with a clip out of reach (make sure they are not looped, or your kitten could hang himself. Droopy ones can loop too and still kill him. Best to keep them clipped and out of the way.) As someone else mentioned, whenever he is bothering them, take him to some other toy or put him in another room. If you are consistent, he will learn to leave them alone. Karen Hey Karen. Off the original OP's question but.... do you have regular miniblinds or verticals? We have a "pictire window" (like all the 80's ranch-style homes did). With 2 regular size windows on each side. I am *sick* of draperies. They're snagged anyway and so full of cat hair they look like cashmere on the inside. I want blinds. But the cats like to look out, and Yoda is the original Destroyer of Miniblinds. I was thinking verticals. I used to have them on a patio door, but never on a regular window and was wondering. I know the cats could look out easier with them. Ssherry I have both. The verticals are really nice because they can just push them aside and have them drape around. I've never had trouble with verticals. Karen |
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TCS wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:07:59 -0600, Gary wrote: Cat Protector wrote: I hardly see how pain will help here. A cat should never be hit or popped with anything. Results. Wonderfull results: a cat that hates you and runs away. Wrong. Mine don't hate me at all, and I can't even lay down without 27 lbs. of cats on me. They don't run away and hide whenever I'm around; in fact, they sometimes get in my way because they like to be with me so much. Try again - that argument is without foundation. Gary A stern tone of voice is all you ever need with a car. "don't do that" in a low growl works if kitty knows that if he ignores the warning he'll be taken to a "time out" location and ignored. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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