Abuse Warning (non animal, but worse, IMO)

People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw


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Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:
People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw

Some people should be sterilized.

Jill


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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:06:26 +0000, Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:

People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw


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I agree. He probably has a very low IQ

"Magic Mood Jeep©" wrote in message
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People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw

I simply can't wrap my head around people who hurt animals, let alone
children. And it *boggles* my mind how anyone could hurt their *own*
children. It hurts me just having to watch Cary get injections, even though
I know they are for his own good, indeed, I cry for longer than he does when
he gets them.

Its articles like that (I couldn't finish reading it) that makes me wonder
if breeding licences, like animal ownership licences, would be a good idea.

Yowie

Yowie wrote in message
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"Magic Mood Jeep©" wrote in message
news:mePUd.76941$tl3.8773@attbi_s02...
People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw

I simply can't wrap my head around people who hurt animals, let alone
children. And it *boggles* my mind how anyone could hurt their *own*
children. It hurts me just having to watch Cary get injections, even
though
I know they are for his own good, indeed, I cry for longer than he does
when
he gets them.

Its articles like that (I couldn't finish reading it) that makes me wonder
if breeding licences, like animal ownership licences, would be a good
idea.

Yowie

If people have to get fishing, driving and hunting licences, licences to
practice medicine... why on earth is any dick head allowed to be a
parent--one of the most important jobs on Earth?

I'm with you, Yowie. It's hard to imagine anyone who can hurt their OWN
children.

Melissa

My God!!! How oh how can anyone do this,what person in his right
mind, you hear of this often, although in my years of fostering I had
more babies abusedby substances their mother had taken, and pure neglect. I
guess the physically abused would have gone to the hospital.
but I've had some gory cases, the last I had before I gave it up 2yrs ago
was a three week old baby who weighed just two kilo's, and I had to give
him morphine twice a day the poor little fellow still cried continuesly
in spite of the morphine, he finally went to a good home. Jean.P.

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People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
children.

http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw


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I swear, sometimes I think that people should get a child license, after
taking a course, the way you get a drivers' license!

When a person adopts, they go through all manner of background and
psychological checks. One spot on the record, no baby. And I look at an SOB
like this and wonder why we let such folk reproduce.

Just shooting my mouth off...

Blessed be,
Baha
Prohibited by state law from adopting a child due to psychiatric history.
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People like this should be sterilized and locked away from any and all
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http://tinyurl.com/6fwuw


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On 2005-03-01, Melissa Houle penned:

If people have to get fishing, driving and hunting licences, licences to
practice medicine... why on earth is any dick head allowed to be a
parent--one of the most important jobs on Earth?

While parenting licenses sound all well and good, I think it opens the door
for all sorts of prejudicial treatment and eugenics. In a country where a
surgeon general was fired for saying that teenagers should be educated about
masturbation, I don't want the government telling me whether or not I'm fit to
have a child.

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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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While parenting licenses sound all well and good, I think it opens the
door
for all sorts of prejudicial treatment and eugenics. In a country where a
surgeon general was fired for saying that teenagers should be educated
about
masturbation, I don't want the government telling me whether or not I'm
fit to
have a child.

Too true, but I wouldn't be opposed to having required parenting classes in
Junior high schools and high schools. Specifically the "Three Cs" as
outlined below.

C1 - Control, and this means control of yourself first! No screaming or
hitting in reaction to what your child does, that gives HIM control over YOU
(HE does act A, YOU have reaction B - he controls you!). It's very easy to
lose your temper and threaten or spank the child, but this only strengthens
his knowledge that he can control your actions with his. You'll usually calm
down later and regret grounding him or hitting him and then rescind the
punishment or apologize, again this puts him in control - he got his way
with no, or amended consequences.

C2 - Consequences, both good and bad as in, "If you choose to finish your
homework you'll get an extra fifteen minutes of TV tonight, if you choose to
not finish your homework you will be given two extra chores to do". ALWAYS
put it in that manner - that he is the one who is choosing his fate, not you
or anyone else. Remember to keep both the rewards and punishments
reasonable. Don't make rewards or punishments you can't keep. Don't promise
a new bike if you can't afford one, and don't threaten to "ground him for
the rest of his life" when you know that's not conceivable. Keep all things
"child-sized" - an ice cream cone is precious to a three-year-old, and a
fifteen minute time-out works better than a week's grounding, and it still
gets the point across. For older children and teenagers larger rewards or
punishments are necessary. AND CONCENTRATE ON THE REWARDS! It's long been
known that positive reinforcement is much more effective (although it may
take longer) than negative reinforcement. Always tell him the results of
EVERYTHING he may choose to do, before hand. [Side note, this was especially
hard to do with my very creative son - who would have thought to say to the
boy, before hand, "If you choose to shave the cat, you'll be given a 15
minute "time-out"??!??] Always let the child know that HE has the choice of
what will happen to him as a consequence of the way he acts. This teaches
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It lets the child know that whatever consequences
fall upon him are the result of HIS actions (this is mostly true in
society). Always let him know that it is HIS choice and HIS actions that
receive the reward or punishment, not you arbitrarily deciding his fate or
"just being mean." Put the responsibility on HIS back, and let him learn it
well. When he whines about a punishment, calmly say, "I'm sorry, but this is
what YOU CHOSE to happen." When he is thrilled with rewards, say to him,
"You earned this yourself with YOUR CHOICE of good behavior." Remember, the
more praise he gets for his good behavior, the harder he will strive to be
good - it's human nature to want to be praised and we will work VERY hard to
achieve it.

C3 - Consistency, consistency, consistency - CUBED!! Once you set the
consequences, carry through, IMMEDIATELY, EVERY TIME, with both the rewards
and the punishment (the immediate part is especially essential, because
children have a different concept of time than we do). After you have this
working for a bit and the child is behaving like a little angel for weeks,
you might be tempted to let him get by with a little misbehavior just this
once - BIG MISTAKE! This will scrap all the work you've done and you'll have
to start all over again. Children will always test the limits. My
pediatrician put it like this "Parents are safety rails for a child. If you
were on an unfamiliar balcony, wouldn't you reach out and shake the railings
to see if they were sturdy and dependable before leaning your weight on
them?" When he learns that there is a consequence to his every action, EVERY
SINGLE TIME, then it will stop being a performance and become a part of his
mentality. Think about it in the adult world. If a many-times-convicted
thief has not stolen for three years then steals again, do we say, "Well,
you've been so good for three years, we'll just let you go on this one." NO
WAY, he gets convicted and sent to jail yet again!

All of this seems very simple, condensed down this way, but there was a lot
more we had to learn along with the Three Cs. The program lasted two years,
going to three-hour "classes", four times a week. It was very hard to change
MY behavior (it is so hard to look at your prized antique vase shattered on
the floor and not scream just a little!) I was also working against
everything I'd learned from "the way I was raised," - early learning goes
very deep. I think four years of high school training might be enough for
most teens (if they were taught well when they were younger).

[Another side note... The Three Cs works just as well on another adult as it
does on a child. It's human nature to want and work for good strokes and to
avoid what hurts. Try it on your spouse or boss! ; ]

Hugs,

CatNipped

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CatNipped wrote:


snip lots *good* parenting advice

[Side note, this was especially hard to do
with my very creative son - who would have thought to say to the boy,
before hand, "If you choose to shave the cat, you'll be given a 15
minute "time-out"??!??]

isn't it more like "if you chose to shave the cat, you will more than likely
get shredded in the process"???

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